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		<title>Buy the Truth and Do Not Sell It</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[by Bill Robinson There Is No Honorable Life Without Truth There is a verse in Proverbs that reads like a command given to a merchant. “Buy the truth, and do not sell it” (Proverbs 23:23). The picture is of a man at a market. He will pay whatever it costs to get the truth into&#8230;]]></description>
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	<p style="text-align: right;">by Bill Robinson</p>
<h2>There Is No Honorable Life Without Truth</h2>
<p>There is a verse in Proverbs that reads like a command given to a merchant. <em>“Buy the truth, and do not sell it</em>” (Proverbs 23:23). The picture is of a man at a market. He will pay whatever it costs to get the truth into his hands, and once he has it, there is no price high enough to make him part with it. That is the posture I want to think through with you, not because I enjoy hard subjects, and not to win an argument, but because I am convinced that everything God has entrusted to us to keep rises or falls on whether we will hold the truth when holding it becomes expensive.</p>
<p>What follows is mainly for those professing to be Christians, but I have tried to write it so that a friend who does not yet believe can follow the reasoning and weigh it honestly. If you are reading as an outsider, I would only ask this: a community that will not bend the truth even when bending it would be easier and warmer is either foolish or trustworthy. By the end, decide which.</p>
<h2>Truth is the ground we stand on</h2>
<p>We do not get to define God on our own terms, nor approach Him on our own terms. Jesus said it plainly to a woman at a well who wanted to argue about the right mountain for worship. “<em>God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth</em>” (John 4:24). Notice the word "must." Truth is not decoration on worship. It is a condition of it.</p>
<p>The night before He died, Jesus prayed for His disciples and said, “<em>Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth</em>” (John 17:17). What sets a person apart for God is the truth, and the truth is identified with God’s own word. This is why Paul calls the church “<em>a pillar and buttress of the truth</em>” (I Timothy 3:15). A pillar holds something up and holds it out for all to see. If the church will not hold up and hold out the truth, it has abandoned the very thing that verse says it is.</p>
<p>I want to say this carefully, because it is the hinge of everything else. We can offer no acceptable or honorable life to God apart from truth. That is a direct implication of these texts, not a slogan. If worship must be in truth, and if God’s word is truth, then a life shaped by something other than His word is not the life He asked for. It may be sincere. It may be warm. It may be admired by others. But sincerity has never been the measure. The measure is whether we have done what God said, the way God said.</p>
<h2>Fellowship is shared light, not shared taste</h2>
<p>Before we talk about the danger of fellowship with sin, we have to be honest about what the word means, because most arguments about fellowship collapse the moment someone quietly changes its definition.</p>
<p>John tells us why he wrote his first letter. “<em>That which we have seen and heard we proclaim also to you, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son Jesus Christ</em>” (I John 1:3). Then he draws the line that defines the rest of the conversation. “<em>If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin</em>” (I John 1:6-7).</p>
<p>Read that slowly. Fellowship is not friendship, nor is it personal affinity. It is a shared participation in the light, in the truth, in the cleansing blood of Christ. Two people have fellowship not because they like each other but because they are both walking in the light with God. This is the necessary inference from the text. If fellowship is grounded in walking in the light, then fellowship has nothing to do with whether I find a brother agreeable, and everything to do with whether he and I are both walking with God in the truth.</p>
<p>That single distinction prevents most of the abuse this subject invites. Fellowship is not mine to grant or withhold based on preference. It is defined by God, around the truth, and I do not get a vote.</p>
<h2>The danger of sheltering sin in the name of fellowship</h2>
<p>If fellowship is shared light, then sheltering a brother in unrepentant sin is not kindness. It is a quiet agreement to call darkness light.</p>
<p>Paul wrote to a church that was proud of how tolerant it had become. A man among them was living in open immorality, the kind that would have scandalized even the pagans around them, and instead of mourning, they were puffed up (I Corinthians 5:1-2). Paul’s words are not gentle. “<em>Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?</em>” (I Corinthians 5:6). Leaven does not stay in its corner of the dough. Sin tolerated does not stay in its corner of the church.</p>
<p>Before I go further, let me say clearly what kind of sin this is and what kind it is not, because everything hangs on it. The brother in view is not a man with a fault, a weakness, or a disagreement. He is someone in open, grievous sin who has been told the truth and will not turn. Jesus laid out the path. You go to him alone, then with one or two witnesses, then before the church, and only if he refuses every appeal does the church withdraw (Matthew 18:15-17). Even the withdrawal is not the slamming of a door. “<em>Do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother</em>” (II Thessalonians 3:15). The whole aim is rescue. The man is handed over so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord (I Corinthians 5:5), and the church takes note of him so that he may be ashamed and turn (II Thessalonians 3:14). This is the surgeon’s knife, never the executioner’s. It is the last appeal of love to a man who would not hear the gentler ones.</p>
<p>Now to the objection that always comes, and rightly so. Did Jesus not eat with sinners? He did, and openly. The Pharisees grumbled, “<em>This man receives sinners and eats with them</em>” (Luke 15:1-2). When they accused Him of dining with tax collectors and sinners, He answered, “<em>Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick</em>” (Matthew 9:10-13). So how can withdrawal ever be right?</p>
<p>The answer is in the difference between the two situations, and Paul names it himself. He says he is “<em>not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world … since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty</em>” (I Corinthians 5:9-11). There is the line, drawn by Paul’s own hand: not the immoral of the world, but the one who bears the name of brother and will not repent. Jesus ate with the lost in order to call them home. That is evangelism, and we are commanded to do it. Paul forbids something else entirely: ongoing fellowship with a man who wears the name of brother and refuses to repent. The physician sits with the sick who want to be made well. He does not play along with the patient who insists he is healthy while the infection spreads. The difference is not how sick a man is, but whether he will let the Physician heal him. The pursuit of the lost and the refusal to shelter unrepentant sin are not in conflict. They are the same love facing two different people.</p>
<p>The clearest example of all is not a faceless sinner but the apostle Peter. In Antioch, Peter began to pull back from eating with Gentile believers once certain men arrived, and his hypocrisy drew others along. Paul writes, “<em>But when I saw that their conduct was not in step with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas before them all</em> …” (Galatians 2:14). Sit with that. Paul opposed Peter to his face, in public, over a meal. If affection for an apostle, a friend, a fellow pillar of the church, did not buy a pass when the truth of the gospel was at stake, then no relationship in my life buys a pass either.</p>
<h2>Our lives are not our own</h2>
<p>Here is where preference dies. “<em>For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake and the gospel’s will save it</em>” (Mark 8:35). Paul puts it as worship. “<em>Present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship</em>” (Romans 12:1).</p>
<p>A sacrifice does not negotiate. The Christian life is a life poured out, lost in the service of the One who bought it. So when I am tempted to keep peace by keeping quiet, the question is never “What would I prefer?” The question is “What does faithfulness to Christ require?” My preferences were nailed to the cross with the rest of me.</p>
<p>I want to be fair, because this cuts both ways, and an honest writer says so. The same principle that forbids me to maintain fellowship out of fondness also forbids me to break fellowship out of dislike. Preference is not a reason to stay where I should withdraw, and it is not a reason to withdraw from a faithful brother I simply find difficult. The early church had men who turned the gospel into a party banner. “<em>Each one of you says, ‘I follow Paul,’ or ‘I follow Apollos’</em>” (I Corinthians 1:12). That is preference dressed up as conviction, and Paul rebukes it. Truth governs fellowship. My likes and dislikes do not.</p>
<h2>Truth is never a license to be cruel</h2>
<p>If you hear only the first half of this and miss what comes now, you will become exactly the kind of person these texts were meant to prevent.</p>
<p>Paul could confront Peter to his face, and the same Paul wrote, “<em>Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head</em>” (Ephesians 4:15). Truth and love are not rivals to be balanced against each other. They grow up together or not at all. He told Timothy, “<em>The Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness</em>” (II Timothy 2:24-25). And when a brother is caught in sin, the charge is to “<em>restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted</em>” (Galatians 6:1).</p>
<p>So truth above everything else, yes. But never truth wielded as a club. The man who loves to tell people hard things has not understood the truth he claims to defend, because the truth he defends took on flesh and washed His betrayer’s feet. A correction delivered with contempt is its own sin, even when the content is right. We cannot be faithful and cruel at the same time.</p>
<h2>The quiet lie that some sins are safe</h2>
<p>Now to a temptation that hides even inside careful people. We learn to rank sins so that our own land is in the acceptable column.</p>
<p>I want to be precise here because Scripture itself speaks of degrees. Jesus told Pilate, “<em>he who delivered me over to you has the greater sin</em>” (John 19:11). The servant who knew his master’s will and did not do it receives a severe beating, while the one who did not know receives a light one (Luke 12:47-48). Not every sin carries the same earthly weight or the same measure of guilt. To say otherwise is to flatten the Bible.</p>
<p>But here is the lie. The lie is not the existence of degrees. The lie is using degrees to excuse what God has not excused. James closes that door. “<em>For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it. For he who said, ‘Do not commit adultery,’ also said, ‘Do not murder.’ If you do not commit adultery but do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law</em>” (James 2:10-11). The point is not that gossip and murder do identical damage. The point is that the same God forbade both, so I cannot wave away my respectable sins by pointing at someone else’s scandalous ones. “<em>The wages of sin is death</em>” (Romans 6:23) has no asterisk for the sins we find tolerable. When I rank sins in order to shelter my own, I have not become a faithful Bible student. I am showing partiality, judging sin by who commits it rather than by the God who forbade it, and James calls partiality sin (James 2:9).</p>
<p>A fair reader will press the next question. If we will not excuse sin, then who decides which sin is grave enough to break fellowship, and how do we keep from manufacturing offenses out of our own opinions? It is an honest question, and it deserves an honest answer. The discipline texts do not hover over private disagreements or matters of judgment. They name open, public, unrepentant sin that even outsiders recognize as sin. The scandal in Corinth was the kind of thing a pagan city found shameful. That is a long way from a brother who reaches a different conclusion on a question God left open.</p>
<p>And I have to be plain about my own house. The danger runs in both directions. It is possible to sin by sheltering real evil, and it is possible to sin by breaking fellowship over things that were never sin at all. Those of us who prize the truth have not always kept that second line. We have at times divided over inferences we should have held as opinions, and called it faithfulness when it was something closer to fear or pride. If I warn against the first danger, honesty requires me to confess the second.</p>
<h2>What we tolerate, we soon condone</h2>
<p>There is a path the heart walks, and it is downhill the whole way. First, we tolerate. Then we condone. Then we defend. Watch how Scripture traces it.</p>
<p>To the church in Thyatira, the risen Christ said, “<em>I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants</em>” (Revelation 2:20). The charge was not that they taught her error. The charge was that they tolerated it. Toleration was enough to draw rebuke from the Lord, because toleration is never the end of the story. Paul shows where it goes. Of those who reject God, he writes, “<em>Though they know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them</em>” (Romans 1:32). First, you do the thing. Then you approve of others doing it. Toleration becomes applause.</p>
<p>Let me set a guardrail here, because the maxim is true of sin and false of liberty. Not every difference among brothers is darkness to be purged. On the matters where God has left us free, the command is not vigilance but welcome. “<em>As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions</em>” (Romans 14:1). Paul spends whole chapters teaching the strong to bear with the weak over food and days and conscience without ever calling it sin (Romans 14 and I Corinthians 8 through 10). So the principle bites on sin, where toleration really does slide toward approval. It gives me no license to manufacture offenses or to draw the line of fellowship around my own preferences. To bind where God has not bound is simply another way of selling the truth.</p>
<p>And there is a final stage that the Bible shows us in story after story. The defense of a practice usually follows the practice. We act first, and then our minds get to work building the justification. Aaron made the golden calf, and when Moses confronted him, his account was almost comic in its evasion. “<em>I threw it into the fire, and out came this calf</em>” (Exodus 32:24). As if the calf made itself. Saul disobeyed the Lord’s command, kept the best of the spoil, and when Samuel arrived, Saul reframed his disobedience as worship. “<em>The people took of the spoil … to sacrifice to the Lord your God</em>” (I Samuel 15:21). The disobedience came first. The pious defense came after, manufactured to cover what was already done.</p>
<p>This is the necessary inference from these accounts, drawn from the pattern they show rather than from a single command. The heart leads, and the mind follows to defend what the heart has already chosen. “<em>The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?</em>” (Jeremiah 17:9).</p>
<p>I cannot exempt myself or my own tradition from this, and it would be dishonest to try. Someone could fairly say that I hold my convictions about fellowship simply because they were handed to me, and the only honest reply is to take them back to the text and test them again, not to wave the charge away. The principle is a mirror before it is anything else. The moment I pick it up as a club to swing at someone else, I have proven I do not understand it. So our most confident defenses deserve our most careful suspicion, beginning with my own.</p>
<h2>Buy it, and do not sell it</h2>
<p>So return to the market in Proverbs. The truth is for sale, and the price is real. It will cost you some friendships. It will cost you the comfort of being liked by everyone. It will cost you the easy peace that comes from looking the other way. Buy it anyway. And once you have it, do not sell it, not for affection, not for approval, not for the quiet life.</p>
<p>But before you go looking for the brother who needs correcting, look in the mirror. “<em>First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye</em>” (Matthew 7:5). Start by asking which of your own settled comforts you have quietly defended that you should have repented of.</p>
<p>We do all of this for one reason, and it is not love of being right. It is God who is Himself the truth. Jesus said, “<em>I am the way, and the truth, and the life</em>” (John 14:6). To hold the truth is to hold on to Him. To sell the truth is to let go of Him. He paid everything to bring us into the light. The least we can do, and by His grace the most we can do, is refuse to drag the darkness back in.</p>
<p>And there is something worse than dragging the darkness back in. It is sitting in the dark long enough that our eyes adjust until we are certain we are standing in the light. Jesus warned of exactly this. “<em>If then the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness!</em>” (Matthew 6:23). The most dangerous man in the room is not the one who knows he is in sin. It is the one who has made his peace with it and calls it fellowship with God, which John already told us is a lie (I John 1:6). So the prayer underneath all of this is not first that we would correct one another. It is that God would keep our own eyes from adjusting to the dark.</p>
<p>Buy the truth, and do not sell it.</p>
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		<title>Is it right to withdraw from a young woman who said she was raped?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2026 00:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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	<h2>Question:</h2>
<p>Dear minister,</p>
<p>A young sister, according to her, was raped, and this led to pregnancy. Her father noticed something unusual about his daughter and subsequently drew the attention of her mother, which led them to find out that she was pregnant, and they had her pregnancy aborted.</p>
<p>This matter was reported to the church, and a warning letter was issued to her. However, a brother is insisting that the offense calls for outright disfellowship of the sister and the parents.</p>
<p>Sir, what is your advice on this issue?</p>
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<p>So quick to condemn and so unwilling to save.</p>
<p>First, are they being condemned for killing an innocent child? If so, were they taught that life is sacred and that abortion is wrong? Was any opportunity given for them to repent of their sin?</p>
<p>Second, is the young woman being condemned for being raped? If so, do they withdraw from people who are robbed? The victim of a crime is not held guilty of the crime. "<em>But if in the field the man finds the girl who is engaged, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lies with her shall die. But you shall do nothing to the girl; there is no sin in the girl worthy of death, for just as a man rises against his neighbor and murders him, so is this case. When he found her in the field, the engaged girl cried out, but there was no one to save her</em>" (Deuteronomy 22:25-27).</p>
<p>There is a process to follow when dealing with sin. "<em>If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother</em>" (Matthew 18:15). The first step is to talk to the person directly and privately in hopes of persuading the person out of his sin. If the person repents, there is no reason to do anything more. The number of people who know about the sin should be kept to the minimum necessary to resolve the sin.</p>
<p>Only if the first step fails should an effort be made to establish what happened. "<em>But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every fact may be confirmed</em>" (Matthew 18:16). Did people talk to the man involved? Were there any witnesses to what happened? If all you have is the young woman's word on the matter that she was raped, then you must accept her statement. If in the process of confirming the facts in the matter, the person repents of his sin, then there is no reason to do anything more. The goal of getting the person out of sin was achieved. Once again, the number of people who know about the sin is kept to the minimum necessary to bring about a change.</p>
<p>Only if the second step fails is the matter brought up before the church. By this time, there have been several attempts to talk the person out of his sin. "<em>If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector</em>" (Matthew 18:17). At this point, the church weighs the evidence gathered and makes a decision about what has happened. If it is determined that sin is taking place and that the person refuses to change, it is then that the church withdraws from the sinner.</p>
<p>Even then, the goal remains to have the person repent of his sins. If he does, he is welcomed back. "<em>Sufficient for such a one is this punishment which was inflicted by the majority, so that on the contrary you should rather forgive and comfort him, otherwise such a one might be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow. Wherefore I urge you to reaffirm your love for him"</em> (II Corinthians 2:6-8).</p>
<p>Don't lose sight of why the church exists. It is there to help its members reach heaven.</p>
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		<title>Do we withdraw from those who have admitted their sin?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2026 21:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>Good day Jeffery,</p>
<p>A few months ago, in my old congregation, the preacher, a married man, was having affairs with some sisters. One became jealous and reported to the father of another sister that she was having an affair. This other sister's father was a preacher in another congregation. He brought the matter to the eldership, and his daughter was disfellowshipped in her congregation.</p>
<p>The next Sunday, the unfaithful preacher confessed to his congregation, but he was also disfellowshipped. He was restored the next week after submitting a letter. I personally do not think his apology was sincere, but the Lord said we should forgive brethren who ask.</p>
<div dir="auto" data-olk-copy-source="MessageBody">I have never been a fan of congregations that write "fornication leading to pregnancy" in their disfellowship letters because I believe the sin is fornication and not pregnancy. But in such a case, suppose a sister commits fornication and confesses to a few members in private and repents. What if she ends up being pregnant as a result of the sin she has turned away from? The evidence of her sin will always be apparent.</div>
<p>Today, a brother was made to confess in front of my congregation. He had been stealing from the collection during the counting. The treasurer had first noticed it but did not know how to confront the thief, so he informed the financial secretary. Witnesses testified, and the thief was reported to the preacher. He was rebuked and called to confess today. The preacher cited I Timothy 5:20 as a reason for open confession, after which he was forgiven by the church. Some brethren felt he should only have been brought to the church if he had refused to repent after a private confrontation. The disgrace may cause him to withdraw.</p>
<p>This prompted me to research both cases. I am of the opinion that he needed to confess before the church because it was a crime against the church, but I can't find biblical support for that; all I find is asking for forgiveness for offending a brother. I see nothing about the church. Regarding the public rebuke in I Timothy 5:20, I believe it refers to rebuking elders and members who confess.</p>
<p>This has been long, so I will itemize my questions.</p>
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<li>If we can't verify repentance, aren't we just performing a ritual by disfellowshipping and restoring the next Sunday?</li>
<li>In the case of the adulterous preacher, if he had not been disfellowshipped, what other thing should the church do for discipline? And would these disciplinary acts be valid if he were not a preacher?</li>
<li>In the case of the stealing brother, is there anything like a sin against the church?</li>
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<div dir="auto" data-olk-copy-source="MessageBody">Do you think a sister who becomes pregnant from fornication needs to confess before the congregation to set the record straight about her repentance and confession?</div>
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<div dir="auto">If not, would it not lead brethren to get the wrong idea, and the leaven leavens the lump?</div>
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<div dir="auto">Does "so that others will learn" only apply to elders in I Timothy 5:20?</div>
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<p>Withdrawing (disfellowship) is what a church does when a member refuses to give up his sin. See "<a href="https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/withdraw-yourselves/">Withdraw Yourselves</a>." Withdrawing from someone who has already confessed his sin doesn't make sense. Withdrawing from a sinner doesn't save the sinner. "<em>Sufficient for such a one is this punishment which was inflicted by the majority, so that on the contrary you should rather forgive and comfort him, otherwise such a one might be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow. Wherefore I urge you to reaffirm your love for him</em>" (II Corinthians 2:6-8). I don't know of any passage that indicates that men are to judge whether a person's repentance is adequate. Nor is there a requirement that someone publicly confess his sins or write a letter confessing his sins. See</p>
<ul>
<li>"<a href="https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/does-sin-require-a-public-confession-before-a-congregation/">Does sin require a public confession before a congregation?</a>"</li>
<li>"<a href="https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/what-kind-of-people-confess-their-sins/">What Kind of People Confess Their Sins?</a>"</li>
<li>"<a href="https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/shouldnt-a-public-sin-be-publicly-confessed/">Shouldn't a public sin be publicly confessed?</a>"</li>
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<p>When you know that a brother or sister has a weakness in some area, you seek to help the person not to sin by not putting him in situations where he will be tempted. The brother who was counting the money would be removed from that duty. The congregation may decide that they don't want a man who committed adultery working as a preacher for them.</p>
<p>The brother who stole the money stole from God (Acts 5:3-4).</p>
<p>I would expect that most people in a congregation would know both about her pregnancy and her repentance. If not, a gentle question would settle the matter. If she wants it generally announced that she has repented of her fornication so she isn't asked so often, then that would be her choice. The passage in I Corinthians 5:6-8 addresses a situation in which a church allows sin to go unchecked. A former sinner doesn't fit the situation. Knowledge of a former sin doesn't cause sin to spread in a church.</p>
<p>I Timothy 5:19-20 deals with an elder who continues in sin. If the elder refuses to repent of his sin, he is to be publicly rebuked so that everyone knows that sin is not accepted in the church, and even leaders are not immune.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[by Kyle Ellison This is a question that receives much attention, concern, and even debate at times. However, when considering a question like this, we are not left without guidance from Scripture. First, we must treat them with love, care, and compassion. We should never look down on anyone who has fallen, nor should we&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>This is a question that receives much attention, concern, and even debate at times. However, when considering a question like this, we are not left without guidance from Scripture.</p>
<p>First, we must treat them with love, care, and compassion. We should never look down on anyone who has fallen, nor should we treat them as lesser. Those toward whom discipline is exercised are not enemies—they are brothers and sisters.</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>Do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother</em>” (II Thessalonians 3:15).</p>
<p>“<em>Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted</em>” (Galatians 6:1).</p></blockquote>
<p>Secondly, there should be a relational change with this individual, even if that is difficult. In other words, the purpose of discipline is that this person should not be someone with whom regular social, recreational, or extracurricular activities and meals are shared. I realize this may seem difficult, but the goal of discipline is to bring about a marked change in the relationship so that they may feel sorrowful over their direction and choices.</p>
<p>This does not mean there should be no contact. You should keep appropriate contact through greetings, cards, texts, and check-ins. However, it would be a violation of Scripture to enjoy dinners out, holiday gatherings without interruption, social outings, restaurant visits, sporting events, vacations, and the like. The nature of the relationship must be marked by difference in order to bring about repentance.</p>
<p>Notice what Paul says concerning this:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person</em>” (I Corinthians 5:11).</p>
<p>“<em>Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is walking in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us</em>” (II Thessalonians 3:6).</p></blockquote>
<p>Lastly, these commands are not to be avoided because of your relationship with the one being disciplined. Whether it is an adult child, a brother or sister, a father or mother, the command remains the same.</p>
<p>Sad indeed is the situation where we bend, fudge, or ignore God’s Word because it involves close relationships! Now, there do seem to be caveats in cases involving a disabled or dependent child, or a spouse toward whom you must still fulfill biblical obligations and duties. Nevertheless, we must not be tempted to bend Scripture because of emotional bias.</p>
<p>I realize that these kinds of teachings seem utterly foreign to society today, yet God has set forth His expectation, and we would do well to follow it carefully.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2025 23:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>Dear Jeffrey,</p>
<p>I hope you are well. I have a question concerning the church at Thyatira in Revelation 2:18-29. The letter to the church mentioned a Jezebel. Some compared her with the wife of Ahaz, who instilled and practiced evil. In the Revelation case, Jezebel teaches false doctrines, leading others to commit fornication and eat things offered to idols. The fundamental issue is that she is spreading false doctrines or teachings in the church. Then in Revelation 3:24-26, the "rest in Thyatira" are not partakers of her evil, but are encouraged to "hold fast till I come".</p>
<p>My question relates to excommunication. Why did the Lord not instruct the "rest" to excommunicate" Jezebel or to leave this church and go set up another congregation free from these false doctrines?</p>
<p>In a similar application today. Suppose there is a founding leader of a church congregation who openly or discreetly teaches or permits some doctrines that are not in line with the Scripture (such as marriage and divorce). The rest of the church is not strong enough to challenge this person (because he is the founding member). Should the "rest" of the members leave to start another congregation, or should they just "hold fast" in the truth but co-exist with the false leader? In the case of Thyatira, it appears the instruction is to co-exist until the Lord takes action (which may be metaphorical).</p>
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<blockquote><p>"<em>I know your deeds, and your love and faith and service and perseverance, and that your deeds of late are greater than at first. But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, and she teaches and leads My bond-servants astray so that they commit acts of immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. I gave her time to repent, and she does not want to repent of her immorality. Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds. And I will kill her children with pestilence, and all the churches will know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts; and I will give to each one of you according to your deeds. But I say to you, the rest who are in Thyatira, who do not hold this teaching, who have not known the deep things of Satan, as they call them--I place no other burden on you. Nevertheless what you have, hold fast until I come</em>" (Revelation 2:19-25).</p></blockquote>
<p>Jesus states that there are many things that he likes about the church in Thyatira, but he holds something against the group: "<em>you tolerate the woman Jezebel</em>" (Revelation 2:20). What was wrong about the church in Thyatira? They had not taken action against the false prophetess. Jesus is saying they should have removed her from their congregation. It is only those who overcome the sin introduced by this false prophetess and those who keep Jesus' commands who will receive authority over the nations (Revelation 2:26). This is both an award and a reminder that they have authority from the Lord, and sometimes the use of authority will seem harsh. The righteous are called to rule with a rod of iron, just as Christ does. Jezebel and her followers have no real authority, nor can she grant authority to others.</p>
<p>It is because the church has been reluctant to follow Christ's command that he says he will take action against Jezebel and her followers. He hadn't done so earlier because he desired to give them a chance to repent. However, she has made it clear that she doesn't want to repent (Revelation 2:21). When Christ does take action, everyone (wicked and righteous, this congregation and others) will realize that Jesus knows each person's mind and heart, and that he has the authority to judge people according to their deeds (Revelation 2:23).</p>
<p>To the faithful, Jesus said he would place no <em>other</em> burden on them. What burden has been placed on them?</p>
<blockquote><p>"A kind Saviour says, that he would bring upon them no other and no weightier burden, than must arise from his purpose to inflict appropriate vengeance on the guilty themselves. The trouble which would grow out of that would be a sufficient expression of his displeasure. This is, in fact, often now all that is necessary as a punishment on a church for harboring the advocates of error and of sin. The church has trouble enough ultimately in getting rid of them; and the injury which such persons do to its piety, peace, and reputation, and the disorders of which they are the cause, constitute a sufficient punishment for having tolerated them in its bosom. Often the most severe punishment that God can bring upon people is to "lay upon them no other burden" than to leave them to the inevitable consequences of their own folly, or to the trouble and vexation incident to the effort to free themselves from what they had for a long time tolerated or practiced" [Albert Barnes].</p></blockquote>
<p>The problems in the church stemmed from their negligence of duty. The issues they will have to face as Jesus cleans up what they failed to do will also have to be faced. Regardless, they must not stop or give up. Jesus is not encouraging tolerance of sin. He is commanding them to remain faithful despite the hardships that have resulted from their failure. I would take that as encouragement to address the sin now, even though they failed to do so earlier.</p>
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<p>Hello brother Jeffrey,</p>
<p>I trust you have been in good health this while, and your family too. I am happy to reach out to you after some time has passed.</p>
<p>I delivered a teaching on I Corinthians 5, which deals with church discipline over ongoing sin. This teaching aroused questions, and I would like some enlightenment on them:</p>
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<li>This is a real-life case shared by a brother: A brother had an affair with a sister that led to pregnancy, which he then had her abort by sponsoring it. Later, he announced plans to marry a different sister, not the one he’d sinned with. When she found out, she decided to report their immoral act to the church. But the brother, sensing her move, hurried to the church first, confessing the affair and asking for forgiveness—though he only did this after realizing she wanted to report him. The sister never planned to report until she saw he was using her and abandoning her, then marrying another. So, based on biblical standards (Matthew 18:17), should the church forgive him or disfellowship him and the sister he sinned with?</li>
<li>A brother has been sleeping with married women and sisters, even within the church. When his sin was exposed, he quickly reported himself to the church. Should the church withdraw from this brother or forgive him?</li>
<li>When a congregation withdraws a brother or sister, is it in order to inform other congregations about this development? Not necessarily to instruct the congregation on how to receive it, but to inform them and allow them to decide how to handle it. Because a brother who is withdrawn can go to another congregation and participate fully -- until discovered, which is common around here.</li>
<li>If the church is allowed to judge certain matters within her through discipline, how can we relate that to Revelation 22:11?</li>
<li>The concept of sin: Does it mean sin is part of us, even though we are Christians, such that God has to discipline us because of sin (Hebrews 12:6)?</li>
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<p>All these are about disfellowship. Some hold the view that discipline should be left to God on the last day, using Revelation 22:11 as a proof text.</p>
<p>Thank you, sir.</p>
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<p>It would be beneficial to start by reviewing the purpose of withdrawal. See: "<a href="https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/withdraw-yourselves/">Withdraw Yourselves</a>."</p>
<p>People cannot read the minds of other people. We have to go by what they say and what they do. Withdrawing is not done because someone sinned, but because they refuse to leave their sin. I understand that you don't trust these people because they waited until they realized they were caught. However, you have to accept them at their word (Luke 17:3-5). I would make it very clear, especially to the adulterer, that they have proven that they know they have sinned. You expect to see fruit worthy of repentance in their lives (Matthew 3:8). Discussion of repentance must be made with the men and the women. The sex was consensual, and both the man and the woman accepted the abortion. Remember that the goal is to rescue people from their sins. It is not to make you feel better for having done something.</p>
<p>Congregations need to accept that just because someone shows up at the door, it doesn’t imply they are faithful brethren. When dealing with someone they don’t know, it would be prudent for any congregation to inquire about their background and verify the information. There are people who lie and mislead. To ignore this simple fact is dangerous and naive. Congregations have control over their membership. The congregation in Jerusalem was reluctant to allow Saul in as a member, and for good reasons, until they had evidence that Saul had truly converted (Acts 9:26-27).</p>
<p>When a Christian or congregation knows that a wayward member is going elsewhere, concern for other brethren demands that some warning be given.</p>
<blockquote><p>“<i>This charge I commit to you, son Timothy, according to the prophecies previously made concerning you, that by them you may wage the good warfare, having faith and a good conscience, which some having rejected, concerning the faith have suffered shipwreck, of whom are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I delivered to Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme</i>” (I Timothy 1:18-20).</p>
<p>“<i>for Demas has forsaken me, having loved this present world, and has departed for Thessalonica</i>” (II Timothy 4:10).</p>
<p>“<i>Alexander the coppersmith did me much harm. May the Lord repay him according to his works. You also must beware of him, for he has greatly resisted our words</i>” (II Timothy 4:14-15).</p></blockquote>
<p>This has caused some problems in our lawsuit-happy country. Congregations have been sued for libel when they sent out warnings regarding members they had disfellowshiped. Yet, it still can be done. Notice that Paul’s warnings told us who were causing problems, but the details of the problems were left unstated. Those who lost lawsuits did so because too much information was relayed. Notably, the examples of warnings are in letters that went to individuals. I’m not certain if we should conclude that it should always be done that way or not, but certainly, in touchy situations, a discreet letter to key individuals will at least give people a warning.</p>
<blockquote><p>"<em>And he said to me, 'Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near. Let the one who does wrong, still do wrong; and the one who is filthy, still be filthy; and let the one who is righteous, still practice righteousness; and the one who is holy, still keep himself holy. Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done'</em>" (Revelation 22:10-12).</p></blockquote>
<p>Revelation 22:11 is sandwiched between two warnings that things foretold in Revelation would be occurring soon. Those who are wicked will ignore the warnings Jesus has given, but the righteous are encouraged to remain faithful. How people respond to the warnings doesn't change their realities. Jesus will reward people according to what they have done (II Corinthians 5:10). The warnings were given, and the Lord will be just in holding people accountable.</p>
<p>It is a mistake to claim one verse cancels out the commands found in other verses. The church is commanded to judge those within its membership (I Corinthians 5:12).</p>
<p>John clearly stated that sin remains a struggle for Christians. "<em>If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us. My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous</em>" (I John 1:8-2:1). See "<a href="https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/being-a-christian-will-not-save-you/">Being a Christian Will Not Save You</a>."</p>
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	<p style="text-align: right;">by Kyle Ellison</p>
<p>The question of when to exercise church discipline is both agonizing and grueling, one that elders and members must grapple with from time to time.</p>
<p>Elders feel the weight of this without a doubt, since they are charged with watching for the souls of those under their care.  “<em>Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account</em>” (Hebrews 13:17).</p>
<p>It is true that at times we may be too quick to jump into “discipline mode” before:</p>
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<li>We have the facts of the ongoing offense, if there be any such thing.</li>
<li>We have sufficiently exhausted every other effort to correct the one erring in sin.</li>
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<p>Church discipline must never be used as a tool to carry out or exact revenge. It must never be used to grind an axe, get even, or embarrass someone. In fact, it would be better not to exercise it at all than to do so with impure motives.</p>
<p>The dilemma often arises when we must judge whether a member is acting wayward due to discouragement, life circumstances, sorrow, grief, or pain — or if they are acting wayward because of flagrant disregard for God and His Word. If the former, we need to exercise great patience and tender love, even to the point of exhaustion.</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>We who are strong have an obligation to bear with the failings of the weak, and not to please ourselves</em>” (Romans 15:1).</p></blockquote>
<p>Sometimes a brother or sister is habitually absent from the assembly, but before we jump to discipline, perhaps we would do well to ask: Why?<br />
What in the life of a believer hinders them? Is it a recurring sickness? Is it sorrow upon sorrow? Is it deep depression? Does it come from hurt in the local body? Perhaps it is needful to begin by looking at ourselves to see if we could have contributed to this lack of desire to assemble.</p>
<p>Now, there are times when a brother or sister is openly and flagrantly living in sin or rebellion. Sin in the camp will bring weakness, division, and hurt to God’s people (Joshua 7:12), and it cannot be tolerated by those who willingly refuse to repent and make correction. It is of utmost importance that an eldership act quickly if this individual considers themselves right with God and attempts to bring their acceptance of sin into the group of God’s people.</p>
<p>If such sinful behavior is “<em>commonly reported</em>” (I Corinthians 1:11), if it is witnessed, and if the individuals have been reasoned with privately, with witnesses, and before the church to no avail (Matthew 18:15–17), then it becomes necessary to “<em>tell it to the church</em>” and let them be as a “<em>heathen</em>” to you — that they might feel the pain of this in their life and turn back from their current trajectory.</p>
<p>The overarching point is this: church discipline is a tool in the toolbox of restoration. It should come after all other attempts have been exhausted, after the ongoing offense has been confirmed, and when there remain no other options.</p>
<p>For the sake of the purity of the church (I Corinthians 5:9) and for the sake of the soul that is erring (I Corinthians 7:5), we must act when discipline is necessary. But we must also act with wisdom, caution, and love at the center of all that we say and do.</p>
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		<title>How Can It Be Right to Turn a Child of God Over to Satan?</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[by Roger D. Campbell Have you ever heard of the proposal that there comes a point when the Lord’s church should somehow deliver its unfaithful members to the devil? Does that idea strike you as being unreasonable or unthinkable? The truth is, beloved, that is exactly what the God of heaven instructs us to do.&#8230;]]></description>
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	<p style="text-align: right;">by Roger D. Campbell</p>
<p>Have you ever heard of the proposal that there comes a point when the Lord’s church should somehow deliver its unfaithful members to the devil? Does that idea strike you as being unreasonable or unthinkable? The truth is, beloved, that is exactly what the God of heaven instructs us to do. Really? Yes, really. Here are two New Testament passages in which we read such teaching:</p>
<blockquote><p>"<em>In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus</em>" (I Corinthians 5:4-5).</p>
<p>"<em>Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck: Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme</em>" (I Timothy 1:19-20).</p></blockquote>
<p>Obviously, the matters about which Paul wrote in these two instances were extremely serious. In the first scenario, there was a brother in the church at Corinth who was a fornicator, and at the time Paul wrote this inspired letter (I Corinthians) to them, the saints there had not yet properly dealt with this immoral man. What was the Holy Spirit’s instruction to them? To purge out the old leaven (I Corinthians 5:7), have no company with this man (I Corinthians 5:9), not eat with this man (I Corinthians 5:11), and put him away from among them (I Corinthians 5:13). By doing those things, what would they actually be doing? They would be delivering or turning over this brother to Satan.</p>
<p>What does it even mean to turn over or deliver a person to the devil? It seems that examining the intention behind such an action will help us understand its meaning. The notion that Christians should turn a brother, one of their own, over to Satan, may sound horrible to some. But let us read I Corinthians 5:5 again: "<em>To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.</em>" Did you notice the motivation behind such action? What is the ultimate desire of turning a fellow saint over to our adversary? "<em>That the spirit may be saved</em>" – rather than the mindset being, "Let’s cast him off to the wolves and let him burn in hell," the real goal is that his soul will be saved from hell! With that in mind, the Bible says that such a brother is to be delivered to Satan "<em>for the destruction of the flesh</em>." Folks, the man is already in a lost condition, so delivering him to Satan does not make things worse (God does not prescribe remedies that make things bad or worse). Rather, the hope is that by turning him over to Satan, which is the same as refusing to have company with him, he will open his eyes, see his horrible condition, hate the thought of losing all social association with his beloved Christian family, and resolve to fulfill the lusts of the flesh no longer, including being a fornicator.</p>
<p>Why is it right to turn a child of God over to Satan? It is proper to do so because that is the action which the Lord instructs us to take. If God counts it as a good and necessary step, then that is just what it is. Someone might still wonder, "I do not see why the Lord would tell us to do such a thing. Would it not be better to work patiently with people and try to encourage them to do what is right, rather than just write them off?" First of all, to make the scriptural decision to withhold fellowship and support from a rebellious child of God does not mean that we are not concerned about them. On the contrary, it shows that we love them and ultimately want what is best for them – for them to be restored to their first love (Revelation 2:4-5). Second, to refuse to have company with a member of God’s family does not mean that we never want to see or hear from them again. God forbid! Should a child of God that the church has delivered to Satan for the destruction of the flesh come to his senses (as the lost son did, Luke 15:17), repent of and confess his wrong, we would with great rejoicing receive him with open arms. What a great day that would be! Through the years, there have been many fallen saints who have been properly delivered to the devil by a faithful congregation, and in the course of time, those fallen saints have repented and come home.</p>
<p>Each sinful situation has to be considered individually. There is a need to try and restore the ones overtaken in a fault (Galatians 6:1-2), to convert or turn back those members of the church that are willfully living in sin (James 5:19,20), and to warn the unruly (I Thessalonians 5:14). The Lord even said of a woman that had led others into error, "<em>And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not</em>" (Revelation 2:21). Obviously, in her case, this woman needed to be granted time in order to give her an opportunity to get herself straightened out. Yes, there are some situations that do demand ongoing instruction, gentle pleading, and longsuffering. Even in such cases, though, when a person defiantly remains in sin despite our sincere efforts to help them make the necessary correction(s), there comes a time when the leaders of a local church must take the action that the Lord prescribes: lead the church in refusing to have company with the sinning member.</p>
<p>On the other hand, there are times when the sin is of such a nature that the church needs to deal with it quickly and clearly. The matter with the fornicating brother in Corinth was such an example, and so was the one of the two brothers (Hymenaeus and Alexander) about whom Paul wrote to Timothy (I Timothy 1:20). They needed to learn not to blaspheme. They needed to learn that pronto, so Paul said that he had delivered them to Satan.</p>
<p>If God commands us to take the step of delivering a brother or sister to the devil for the destruction of the flesh, but we somehow convince ourselves that that is not really the best course of action, so we refuse to do it, what do you suppose the Lord thinks about our failure to obey Him? Here is what the Master said: "<em>Why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?</em>" (Luke 6:46). If someone were to suggest that we should stop partaking of the Lord’s Supper, what would be your reaction? I am confident that we would all, in unison, say something like, "We’ve got to partake of the Lord’s Supper – the Lord commands it." Or, what if someone were to propose that we stop baptizing people? What would be your response to that? Again, I am convinced that we would all make it clear: "We can’t stop baptizing people – the Lord told us to do it." And, we would be right again.</p>
<p>Why is it, then, brothers and sisters, that in some cases congregations keep on having company with members that willfully remain in sin and have no intention of changing? Among other things, God commands us to (1) partake of the Lord’s Supper, (2) baptize people, and (3) deliver ungodly members of the church to Satan for the destruction of the flesh. How can we justify the decision to comply with the first of these two commands, but disregard and reject the third, which is just as much a decree of the Almighty as the other two are?! This is not a trivial matter.</p>
<p>Let us love our brothers and sisters in the same fashion that the Lord does. He said, "<em>As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten</em>" (Revelation 3:19).</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2025 01:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>Hello Pastor,</p>
<p>I have a question that has been on my mind recently. I was reading in Matthew something like, “If your brother has something against you, leave your offering at the altar and reconcile.” I remembered a circumstance that happened a while ago, and it’s worrying me if I’m right with the Lord. I wonder if this holds me back.</p>
<p>When I got married, we had a limit of 240 guests. We mainly invited family and close friends from church. Honestly, I wanted to invite more people from church because I’m closer to them than my actual family, whom I don’t see or talk to. To please my parents, I invited most of my family.</p>
<p>There is a particular cousin though, I didn’t invite. First, we’re not close; we don’t talk. Unfortunately, she decided to leave the church years ago and live a sinful lifestyle. Since we think differently, we don’t interact. After that, it was because my mom kept her distance from her. Her daughter tried to accuse my brother and another cousin of sexual abuse. Afterward, it turned out it wasn’t true. She was trying to get out of trouble by using that false statement. My mom decided to keep her distance for the sake of our family and avoid further defamation.</p>
<p>Getting back to the point, this cousin got angry and upset that I didn’t invite her. I didn’t leave her out as a way to hurt her. She called other family members, expressing her anger and being upset about not being invited. She said we had a black heart (evil) for not inviting her.</p>
<p>Does that Bible verse apply to this situation? It's weird to bring that up since we don’t talk, but I worry I’m sinning by knowing she had something against me.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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<blockquote><p>"<em>You have heard that the ancients were told, 'You shall not commit murder' and 'Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.' But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell. Therefore if you are presenting your offering at the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your offering there before the altar and go; first be reconciled to your brother, and then come and present your offering. Make friends quickly with your opponent at law while you are with him on the way, so that your opponent may not hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. Truly I say to you, you will not come out of there until you have paid up the last cent</em>" (Matthew 5:21-26).</p></blockquote>
<p>Jesus is discussing different forms of anger and why anger is as much a crime as murder. Matthew 5:22 is about anger at another. Matthew 5:23-26 is about anger directed toward you. We cannot control the response of every person. After all, Jesus faced angry mobs several times and was killed. Jesus said it would happen to his followers (Matthew 5:10-12). "<em>If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men</em>" (Romans 12:18).</p>
<p>Your cousin left the church. Her daughter falsely accused your brother to avoid responsibility for something she did. Your cousin's family and your family have stopped talking for years. Any reasonable person would not expect a wedding invitation, but your cousin is unreasonable. Like her daughter, she is stirring up problems because that is her nature. Knowing she was upset, the proper response is to state the obvious: We had limited seats, and there were many we would have liked to have invited, but could not. You don't have to mention that you would not have invited her even if there were enough seats.</p>
<p>You are not going to resolve the issues that she has caused. You can tell her that you would love for her to return to the Lord's church as a faithful member and that you would like to see her reach heaven. If that problem could be resolved, then it would be possible to settle the other issues. Unfortunately, I don't think it will happen since it depends on your cousin changing her heart. "<em>For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame</em>" (Hebrews 6:4-6). Don't let the wicked shift the blame for their sins on you.</p>
<p>Returning to Matthew 5:23, Jesus is focused on a brother having a problem with you. Your cousin ceased to be a brother when she chose sin over God. You must still hope for the best for her, but she doesn't control your ability to worship God with her anger and strife.</p>
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<p>Hello Sir,</p>
<p>I have a question that maybe you can help me to understand.</p>
<p>I attend a Church of Christ, and in my youngest daughter's Bible class, she is being told we must cut off contact with family members who are not members of the church.</p>
<p>I have two older children who are off and on their own. They are great kids, good moral children (at least to the world's standards). They do not disrespect my rules in my home when they come around (which isn't too often) to visit, nor do they demean or disrespect our faith; they are very respectful and often will gladly hear and engage in any faith-based talks we have. I give you this background so you understand our relationship's dynamic. I will see my oldest daughter when schedules permit or at holiday family events. My question is, do I have to cut contact with them and not invite them over for holiday events, out for an occasional lunch, or out to Christmas shop together? My youngest is being told we have to cut them off because they are not members of the church.</p>
<p>I know, of course, to put God first; I don't question that. I pray every day without ceasing for my two older kids to come to Christ, give their lives to him, and follow him with pure obedience. I guess I am concerned that if I cut them out of my life, how can I be an example of a good Christian? They will no longer see our examples. If they don't visit or spend time with us, our faith-based talks will be nonexistent. What if one of those would have been the talk that pricked their hearts? I try to plant seeds where I can and encourage them. I'm just at a loss. This is not the first time the church has put this in our ears. I need some sound doctrine and clarification on how to handle this. If this is what we are to do, then so be it. God comes first.</p>
<p>Thank you for your time.</p>
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<p>Let's look at the command in its context:</p>
<blockquote><p>"<em>I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler--not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? But those who are outside, God judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves</em>" (I Corinthians 5:9-13).</p></blockquote>
<p>Paul's concern is about showing acceptance of people who call themselves Christian but clearly do not live the Christian life. I'm assuming that your two older children have not become Christians in the way that the Bible defines Christianity. Your association with them does not promote immoral practices. This is not the sort of situation Paul was discussing. Paul is dealing with immoral people who call themselves Christians and who have been withdrawn from by the church because of their sins.</p>
<p>One expects a parent to have dealings with his children. People realize that we have to deal with bosses and employees, school teachers, community leaders, etc. Most will not be members of the church. So long as my dealings with them do not promote sin, I do my best to represent Christ. Ask those who advocate isolating non-Christian family members if they insist that people quit their jobs if their employers are not Christians. "<em>All who are under the yoke as slaves are to regard their own masters as worthy of all honor so that the name of God and our doctrine will not be spoken against. Those who have believers as their masters must not be disrespectful to them because they are brethren, but must serve them all the more, because those who partake of the benefit are believers and beloved. Teach and preach these principles</em>" (I Timothy 6:1-2). Paul taught us that we should treat non-Christian bosses honorably. Why are they advocating a different set of rules simply because people are family members?</p>
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<p><span data-olk-copy-source="MessageBody">Thank you! I appreciate your time.</span></p>
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