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		<title>Was Israel Having a King Sinful?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2025 21:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[by Perry Hall A common position is that Israel's wanting a King was sinful (I Samuel 8). Israel even confesses, “Pray for your servants to Yahweh your God, so that we may not die, for we have added to all our sins this evil by asking for ourselves a king" (quoted I Samuel 12:19). I&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>A common position is that Israel's wanting a King was sinful (I Samuel 8). Israel even confesses, “P<em>ray for your servants to Yahweh your God, so that we may not die, for we have added to all our sins this evil by asking for ourselves a king</em>" (quoted I Samuel 12:19).</p>
<p>I suggest to you that Israel <b>having </b>a king was not sinful and that God always intended for Israel to <b>have </b>a king.</p>
<p>If the above is true, then why did both God and Samuel condemn Israel for asking for and wanting a king?</p>
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<li>God said they rejected Him as king.</li>
<li>They wanted a king like the nations to lead them in battle and judge them.</li>
<li>They were leading God, rather than letting God lead them.</li>
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<p>The problem wasn't in <b>having </b>a king. The problem was not waiting for God to introduce the idea of <b>having </b>a king.</p>
<p>What evidence do I present that <strong>having</strong> a king was not sinful?</p>
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<li>God was a king. So Israel had a king.</li>
<li>The book of Judges is an apologetic for having a king.</li>
<li>There is a difference between wanting a king like Yahweh (i.e., a man after God's own heart) and wanting a king like the nations.</li>
<li>God anoints the kings, giving His approval, and God doesn't anoint sin.</li>
<li>Jesus came to be king, but not like the kings of the nations.</li>
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<p>A good analogy would be the temple. Having a temple was not sinful. But building a temple without God's authority was. When Solomon built the temple, God anointed it by filling it with His glory.</p>
<p>The problem for Israel wasn't about <b>having </b>a king. They wanted a king like the nations, and one based on their own authority.</p>
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		<title>How did Saul break the commandment of the Lord in I Samuel 13:11-14?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2015 02:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question: How did Saul break the commandment of the Lord in I Samuel 13:11-14? He was offering to God. Answer: Saul did make an offering to God, but he did not do it in the manner which God wanted offerings done. It did not matter that Saul felt he was compelled to make an offering&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>How did Saul break the commandment of the Lord in I Samuel 13:11-14? He was offering to God.</p>
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	<h2>Answer:</h2>
<p>Saul did make an offering to God, but he did not do it in the manner which God wanted offerings done. It did not matter that Saul felt he was compelled to make an offering (I Samuel 13:12). It didn't matter that it was offered to God. The fact is that Saul was acting without authority, which is what the word "iniquity" means. He was specifically told, "<em>You shall go down before me to Gilgal; and surely I will come down to you to offer burnt offerings and make sacrifices of peace offerings. Seven days you shall wait, till I come to you and show you what you should do</em>" (I Samuel 10:8). Saul decided he couldn't wait. In addition, only priests or prophets were allowed to give offerings to God (Leviticus 7:8), and Saul was neither.</p>
<p>This serves as a warning to people today. We can't expect God to accept whatever we decide to offer Him. "<em>Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'</em>" (Matthew 7:21-23). Worship is defined by God, not man.</p>
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		<title>Did God cause Saul to commit suicide?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2015 02:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question: There are two accounts of Saul's death in the Old Testament. Both say he committed suicide (I Samuel 31:4-5 and I Chronicles 10:14) but the latter one also says that: "the LORD killed Saul because ..." Why the difference? Answer: "So Saul died for his unfaithfulness which he had committed against the LORD, because&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>There are two accounts of Saul's death in the Old Testament. Both say he committed suicide (I Samuel 31:4-5 and I Chronicles 10:14) but the latter one also says that: "the LORD killed Saul because ..." Why the difference?</p>
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	<h2>Answer:</h2>
<blockquote><p>"<em>So Saul died for his unfaithfulness which he had committed against the LORD, because he did not keep the word of the LORD, and also because he consulted a medium for guidance. But he did not inquire of the LORD; therefore He killed him, and turned the kingdom over to David the son of Jesse</em>" (I Chronicles 10:13-14).</p></blockquote>
<p>The works of I Samuel through II Kings tell us of the events that happened in Israel's history. The focus is more on what happened. I and II Chronicles look at the same events and give us deeper insight as to why things happened as they did.</p>
<p>Saul had several incidences where he did things his own way instead of following God's commands (I Samuel 13:13; 15:22-28). This eventually led to God no longer guiding him. "<em>And when Saul inquired of the LORD, the LORD did not answer him, either by dreams or by Urim or by the prophets</em>" (I Samuel 28:6). Saul thought he could sneak past God by finding a medium to talk with Samuel who was by this time dead. Instead of waiting for God, Saul once again tried to force things to go according to his views and his schedule. Thus, we are told why Saul lost the Philistines, while David fighting on another front defeated the Amalekites.</p>
<p>Saul was mortally wounded by an arrow during the battle with the Philistines (I Samuel 13:3), but Saul could not stand the thought of allowing the Philistines a chance to brag that they had killed him, so he ordered his armorbearer to kill him. The man refused, so Saul fell on his own sword. Saul was going to die in this battle. God had already told him that. Once again, Saul tried to force the situation where he had control and did things on his schedule. What he never realized is that he changed nothing.</p>
<p>Thus, Saul did commit suicide. But it is also true that God slew him because God made sure that Saul lost the battle with the Philistines. God didn't make Saul commit suicide, that was Saul's own foolish idea of trying to control what could not be controlled.</p>
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		<title>Did Elkanah worship once a year or several times each year?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2015 01:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question: In I Samuel 1:3, Elkanah worships God in Shiloh yearly (KJV, NKJV, etc.), while in general, men are required to do this three times a year (Exodus 34:23, Deuteronomy 16:16). Is Elkanah doing less than what is required by God? I Samuel 1:3 (ASV) says from year to year; could this include more than&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>In I Samuel 1:3, Elkanah worships God in Shiloh yearly (KJV, NKJV, etc.), while in general, men are required to do this three times a year (Exodus 34:23, Deuteronomy 16:16). Is Elkanah doing less than what is required by God? I Samuel 1:3 (ASV) says from year to year; could this include more than once per year?</p>
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<p>The literal phrase in I Samuel 1:3 is <em>miyamim yamimah</em> "from days to days." It can be translated "at the appointed times," "from time to time," or "yearly." Since the feasts are each held once a year, "yearly" or "from year to year" are the more popular ways to translate this phrase.</p>
<p>In I Samuel 1:7 it is different. Here we have <em>shanah veshanah</em> "a year in a year." This one is translated "year by year" or "year after year."</p>
<p>Neither phrase limits the visits to once a year, only that each of the visits was done on an annual basis.</p>
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		<title>Was the spirit that came to Saul at En Dor a fallen angel?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 04:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question: Hi, Reading through your questions in 2011, on 01/13 you speak about the spirit who visited Saul. What was the spirit? I've often wondered myself and having checked various sites on the web, many actually favor a fallen angel. Why is that? What does the Bible account actually say? Answer: "And Saul perceived that it&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Reading through your questions in 2011, <a href="https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/please-pray-that-my-friend-learns-the-truth-about-the-jehovahs-witnesses/">on 01/13 you speak about the spirit who visited Saul</a>. What was the spirit? I've often wondered myself and having checked various sites on the web, many actually favor a fallen angel. Why is that? What does the Bible account actually say?</p>
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<blockquote><p>"<em>And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground and bowed down</em>" (I Samuel 28:14).</p></blockquote>
<p>God said it was Samuel, not a fallen angel.</p>
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		<title>Why did God make Hannah wait so long before having a child?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 02:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question: Today we read about Hannah finally giving birth to Samuel. Why did it take so long? Why did God close her womb until Samuel? Answer: We aren't told why God had Hannah wait. "Wait on the LORD; Be of good courage, And He shall strengthen your heart; Wait, I say, on the LORD!" (Psalms&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>Today we read about Hannah finally giving birth to Samuel. Why did it take so long? Why did God close her womb until Samuel?</p>
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<p>We aren't told why God had Hannah wait.</p>
<blockquote><p>"<em>Wait on the LORD; Be of good courage, And He shall strengthen your heart; Wait, I say, on the LORD!</em>" (Psalms 27:14).</p>
<p>"<em>Wait on the LORD, And keep His way, And He shall exalt you to inherit the land; When the wicked are cut off, you shall see it</em>" (Psalms 37:34).</p>
<p>"<em>But those who wait on the LORD Shall renew their strength; They shall mount up with wings like eagles, They shall run and not be weary, They shall walk and not faint</em>" (Isaiah 40:31).</p></blockquote>
<p>But if Hannah had children like everyone else, she would not have been motivated to dedicate her first child to God and Samuel would not have grown up as a priest in God's house.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 01:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>I'm reading in I Samuel 16:21. It says that David came into Saul's service to play harp for Saul then became one of Saul's armor-bearers.  Saul even sent word to Jesse saying to 'allow David to remain in my service,' so I would assume that Saul knew who David was.  However, in I Samuel 17:58, when David came back from slaying Goliath, Saul asked him "Whose son are you, young man?"  How can Saul not know who David was after he played a harp and bore his armor all this time already?</p>
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<p>It is a good question that tells us more about Saul's character. Here is a man who had people working for him, yet he did not really know them well.</p>
<p>But do notice that Saul did not ask for David's name, he asked who David's father was. We sometimes forget that time can pass between recorded events. We read them one after another, but it doesn't mean they happened one immediately after another. David did spend time playing for Saul and became Saul's armor-bearer (I Samuel 16:14-23). Even asking Jesse for permission to have David stay with him doesn't mean that Saul would necessarily remember who he sent a message to if it was years later. Time apparently did pass because in I Samuel 17:15 we find that "<em>David occasionally went and returned from Saul to feed his father's sheep at Bethlehem.</em>" In fact, during the time of the Philistine war, David was at home (I Samuel 17:17). We are not told how long David had been gone this last trip. Yet, Saul does appear to be familiar with David when he had David appear before him (I Samuel 17:31-39); after all, he was willing to loan David his own armor.</p>
<p>He asked his captain to remind him who David's father was, but Abner did not know (I Samuel 17:55). At the time, David was just going on the field and perhaps Saul was thinking he would need to send condolences to his family. After David, a mere youth, so soundly defeated Goliath, I can see Saul's mind working: If a young man can do so much, what might his older brothers, if he had any, be able to do? He didn't get an answer from his staff, so he naturally asked David directly when he returned.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 23:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>This sounds like a question out of a theology class book. I generally decline to answer such questions. But the second half is straight forward: "<em>And the LORD said to Samuel, "Heed the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them"</em>" (I Samuel 8:7).</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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	<p>Text: I Samuel 15:1-9</p>

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<p style="text-indent: -0.5in; margin-left: 0.5in">I.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Some questions, by their very nature are difficult topics to take up. The things discussed
make us queasy.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>A.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Yet, you will find that those opposed to Christianity will often attack with these
same topics for the very reason that they know it makes you uncomfortable.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>B.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>I Peter 3:15 - Need to be able to explain</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>C.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Jude 3 - Need to be able to contend for the faith</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>D.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>One avenue of undermining faith is to find what appears to be conflicts, especially
moral conflicts because most people have a hard time wrestling with them.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>E.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>One such question raised by atheists is in regards to God ordering the death of
children, such as found in our Scripture reading.</p>

<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Children are innocent, so why would God order their deaths?</p>
<p style="text-indent: -0.5in; margin-left: 0.5in">II.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Before answering, let me point out that the atheist asking is insincere</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>A.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>An atheist doesn&#8217;t believe in God, nor in any absolute moral code.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>B.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Atheism has long supported the killing of children in the form of abortion. They
justify the destruction of &#8220;unwanted&#8221; children for convenience.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Therefore to claim that God is unjust for ordering what they think is
morally correct is an insincere position.</p>

<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>C.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Second, to claim that the killing of children is wrong is an appeal to a moral code.
This undermines their own belief that morality is relative. You can&#8217;t have it both
ways.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>D.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Finally, as soon as the phrase &#8220;innocent children&#8221; is used, they are admitting the
existence of not only a moral code, but also that there is sin in the world and
adults are responsible for their moral choices.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -0.5in; margin-left: 0.5in">III.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>People die</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>A.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Keep in mind that this particular argument is selected for its emotional charge</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>It is the death of babies</p>

<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>It is by the sword</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>The reason is to get people upset - James 1:20</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>4.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>So the answer to ignore the emotions and look at the problem.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>B.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>There is an assumption that we have the right to live and that God doesn&#8217;t have
the right to take away life</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Ezekiel 18:4 - God has the right of ownership. We only exist because God
made us.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Death exists because man violated God&#8217;s command and let death in with
his sin - Genesis 2:17</p>

<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>We continue to deal with death to this day as a result - Hebrews 9:27</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>C.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>If God cannot take life, then all deaths would be wrong, not just the deaths of
children.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Yet, we accept the fact that everyone dies: the elderly, the middle-aged,
and the young.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Death goes on until Jesus conquers it - I Corinthians 15:25-26</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Death isn&#8217;t a punishment in itself. Rather, we should see that it is
noteworthy that God has allowed us to live to this point - II Peter 3:9</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>4.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>God doesn&#8217;t want the wicked to die because it ends the hope of repentance
- Ezekiel 18:21-23</p>

<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>D.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>In this world, people die. What God offers is real life - John 10:10</p>
<p style="text-indent: -0.5in; margin-left: 0.5in">IV.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Sin is contagious and must be controlled</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>A.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Consider the world before the flood - Genesis 6:5-6</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>God destruction of the world was not arbitrary or done in a fit of rage.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>As bad as mankind became, God gave them 120 years to change - Genesis
6:3</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Noah preached to change the world - II Peter 2:4-9</p>

<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>4.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>People were offered salvation. They did not have to die.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>5.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Why did children die in the flood? Because their evil parents did not
believe God.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -2in; margin-left: 2in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>a.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Despite the parents&#8217; bad choices, God doesn&#8217;t hold those choices
against the children</p>
<p style="text-indent: -2in; margin-left: 2in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>b.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>They will have eternal life despite their parents&#8217; sins.</p>

<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>B.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Consider Sodom and Gomorrah - Genesis 18:20-21</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Children lived in those cities</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Abraham knew God would do something about Sodom and Gomorrah&#8217;s
sin.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -2in; margin-left: 2in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>a.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>God wasn&#8217;t lashing out emotionally.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -2in; margin-left: 2in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>b.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>He told Abraham He was checking it out before delivering
judgment</p>

<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Abraham asked that the innocent be spared and eventually asked that the
cities be spared if just ten righteous people could be found</p>
<p style="text-indent: -2in; margin-left: 2in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>a.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Ten isn&#8217;t a very large number if you consider the population of
several major cities.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>4.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Though ten were not found, Lot, his wife, and two of his daughters were
rescued.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -2in; margin-left: 2in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>a.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Lot delivered a warning that night, but no one would listen</p>
<p style="text-indent: -2in; margin-left: 2in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>b.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Let&#8217;s be blunt: it was the refusal of the evil to listen that resulted in
the death of their children.</p>

<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>C.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Nineveh illustrates the opposite</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>God decided to destroy the city and the evil within it.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>He sent Jonah to warn the people they had 40 days - Jonah 3:4</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>But they repented and God did not destroy the city - Jonah 3:10</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>4.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>These people saved themselves and their children by changing.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>D.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>So what about the people of Canaan?</p>

<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>God told Abraham that his descendants would inherit the land of Canaan,
but they would have to wait 400 years. Why? - Genesis 15:16</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>It wasn&#8217;t because Israel was so deserving of the land, but God was
accomplishing two things at once. He was removing a sin-ridden people
and fulfilling a promise to Abraham - Deuteronomy 9:4-5</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Even with these nations, God gave them the opportunity to flee -
Deuteronomy 4:37-38</p>
<p style="text-indent: -2in; margin-left: 2in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>a.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>A reason for their destruction was their refusal to take the lose of
their land as punishment for their sins.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -0.5in; margin-left: 0.5in">V.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>The Canaanites were not good people and were not getting better</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>A.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>God lists out some of the sins in Canaan - Leviticus 18:20-23</p>

<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Notice that among them was the fact that they were killing their own
children</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>B.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>It was so disgusting that everyone involved had to be destroyed or the sin would
continue to spread - Leviticus 18:24-25; Deuteronomy 12:29-31</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>C.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>God did not want the Israelites profiting from the evil of others. That is why the
possessions where destroyed along with the people</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>D.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>What about the children, could they not be saved?</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>If only the adults and older children who already were learning the evil
were destroyed, who would care for the children?</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Which is a crueler death, instant death by the sword or starvation?</p>

<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>If the Israelites took the children in, then they would be profiting from the
evil &#8211; extra hands on farms, or perhaps slaves</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>4.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>It was important for all to see that this destruction was not for Israel&#8217;s
benefit; it was because of the Canaanites&#8217; sins.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>E.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>God chose to destroy the adults and bring the children home to Him</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Of all involved, the children received the greatest mercy because if they
grew up in that culture, they would have died in their sins.</p>

<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>They were spared the fate of their parents, just like Israel - Deuteronomy
1:39</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>But like Israel, the child suffered for their parents&#8217; sins - Numbers 14:33</p>
<p style="text-indent: -0.5in; margin-left: 0.5in">VI.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>The Canaanites did not have to die</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>A.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Rahab showed that God accepted those who changed </p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>B.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>She and her family were not a part of the destruction of Jericho because Rahab
acknowledged God and His justice - Joshua 2:8-13</p>

<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Notice that the people of Canaan had both advance warning and
encouragement to flee, but they didn&#8217;t</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>But like Rahab, they could have changed, but they didn&#8217;t</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>C.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>It was their sins and their stubbornness that led to the destruction of themselves
and their children</p>
<p style="text-indent: -0.5in; margin-left: 0.5in">VII.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Such destructions were rare</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>A.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>We forget that the Bible covers thousands of years of history. Only significant
events are mentioned.</p>

<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Yet it is easy to think that when we read one destruction after another that
it was constant.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>What we should note is that it was rare. It only happened with sin got
really out of control.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Even then God gave those destined for destruction a chance to repent, and
in some cases a chance to escape death.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>B.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Let&#8217;s put the responsibility where it belongs</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>It was the choices made by adult sinners who tried to call God&#8217;s &#8220;bluff&#8221;

and found to their dismay that God doesn&#8217;t bluff.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>It was their choice that led to the death of the entire group, including their
children (whom some were already killing their own).</p></div>
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<p>We are continuing our study of I Samuel in our ladies' class.  We had a couple of questions.  If you have time, we would appreciate your input.</p>
<p>In I Samuel 21:5 do you think that the term "vessels" refers to the bodies of David's men?  Does this indicate that they were "clean" as far as not being with a woman was concerned?  And, the word vessel is used again in the same verse but seems to be referring to the bread.  Is this something different?</p>
<p>In I Samuel 23:9 (and in other places) the ephod is mentioned.  From what we can find the ephod was the vest that was worn by the priest.  Were Saul and David sanctioned to wear this?  Did they wear it for going before God?  Was this a semblance of the act of a priest?  Also in I Samuel 21:9 it says that Goliath's sword was wrapped in a cloth and was behind the ephod.  This confused us because we didn't know how the ephod that is referred to as a vest could have Goliath's sword behind it?  Are there different kinds of ephods?</p>
<p>I Samuel 26:20 talks about fleas and partridges.  Is this supposed to mean that partridges were hard to find in the mountains (or impossible) and that Saul was wasting his time in hunting for David?</p>
<p>In I Samuel 27:1, do you think this indicates that David did not believe Saul's promise to not seek to kill him?  And, did David have doubts about him becoming King.  We wondered if his faith was weak here and he didn't think he would live to become the King of Israel as he had been anointed.</p>
<p>And, finally, in I Samuel 27:8-12, was David attacking the enemies of Israel and then letting on to Achish that he was attacking the Israelites?</p>
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<blockquote><p>"<em>Then David answered the priest, and said to him, "Truly, women have been kept from us about three days since I came out. And the vessels of the young men are holy, and the bread is in effect common, even though it was sanctified in the vessel this day"</em>" (I Samuel 21:5).</p></blockquote>
<p>There is a play on words being done in this passage, something that is commonly done in the Bible. David is saying the bodies (vessels) of the young men are holy in the sense of Exodus 19:14-15. That is they are clean because none have had sex within the last several days. David is also stating that the bread is set apart as holy when it is on the plates on the table of showbread (Exodus 25:29-30), but when it is replaced by fresh bread it is now nothing more than common bread (I Samuel 21:6). Thus he is arguing that it is the container that determines whether the bread is holy or not and not the bread itself. Since the young men are technically holy, they can partake of the old showbread. Other verses where a person is referred to as a vessel are Psalms 31:12; Isaiah 65:4 (a play on words); Jeremiah 22:28; 25:34; Acts 9:15; Romans 9:21-23; II Corinthians 4:7; I Thessalonians 4:4; II Timothy 2:20-21; I Peter 3:7).</p>
<p>In this argument, David was incorrect; he is stretching things too far. What he did was unlawful (Matthew 12:3-4; Leviticus 24:8-9). Yet it is clear that God offered David and his men mercy by overlooking this sin and not holding it against them (Matthew 12:7).</p>
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<blockquote><p>"<em>When David knew that Saul plotted evil against him, he said to Abiathar the priest, "Bring the ephod here."</em>" (I Samuel 23:9).</p></blockquote>
<p>An ephod is a linen garment. Samuel wore one when he was a boy (I Samuel 2:18) as did David when he brought the ark to Jerusalem (II Samuel 6:14). It was the required garment for priests when they were working in the tabernacle and later the temple (I Samuel 2:28). The High Priest had a special ephod (Exodus 28) that was clasped with two stones on the shoulder from which two loops of gold-chain were attached. From the chains a double-layered material hung, covering the chest like a breastplate. In the pocket formed by the breastplate were kept two stones which were used to receive answers from God. Thus, when David told Abiathar to bring the ephod, it is implied that he is talking about the High Priest's ephod. He wanted to ask God a question and he is telling Abiathar to get dressed for official duties as a High Priest. The ephod wasn't worn all the time, it was too precious. Thus it was generally left hanging in the tabernacle or the temple until needed.</p>
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<blockquote><p>"<em>So now, do not let my blood fall to the earth before the face of the LORD. For the king of Israel has come out to seek a flea, as when one hunts a partridge in the mountains</em>" (I Samuel 26:20).</p></blockquote>
<p>David calls himself a flea, that is a creature who is so insignificant that killing him would bring about no value.</p>
<p>In regards to the partridge, Adam Clarke on this passage states, "It is worthy of remark that the Arabs, observing that partridges, being put up several times, soon become so weary as not to be able to fly; they in this manner hunt them upon the mountains, till at last, they can knock them down with their clubs. It was in this manner that Saul hunted David, coming hastily upon him, and putting him up from time to time, in hopes that he should at length, by frequent repetitions of it, be able to destroy him."</p>
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<blockquote><p>"<em>And David said in his heart, "Now I shall perish someday by the hand of Saul. There is nothing better for me than that I should speedily escape to the land of the Philistines; and Saul will despair of me, to seek me anymore in any part of Israel. So I shall escape out of his hand"</em>" (I Samuel 27:1).</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, David is expressing his despair of ever escaping from Saul. In his despondency, he resolves to go into the land of the Philistines, even though earlier he was told to remain in Judah (I Samuel 22:5). This passage explains why he left. Even great men have moments of weakness and make mistakes. David illustrates this on several occasions. Here he shows a weakness in faith and comes up with a "solution" to solve his problem without consulting God.</p>
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<blockquote><p>"<em>And David and his men went up and raided the Geshurites, the Girzites, and the Amalekites. For those nations were the inhabitants of the land from of old, as you go to Shur, even as far as the land of Egypt. Whenever David attacked the land, he left neither man nor woman alive, but took away the sheep, the oxen, the donkeys, the camels, and the apparel, and returned and came to Achish. Then Achish would say, "Where have you made a raid today?" And David would say, "Against the southern area of Judah, or against the southern area of the Jerahmeelites, or against the southern area of the Kenites." David would save neither man nor woman alive, to bring news to Gath, saying, "Lest they should inform on us, saying, 'Thus David did.'" And thus was his behavior all the time he dwelt in the country of the Philistines. So Achish believed David, saying, "He has made his people Israel utterly abhor him; therefore he will be my servant forever"</em>" (1 Samuel 27:8-12).</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, you have it correct. David was campaigning against other enemies of Israel, along its borders. When Achish, a king of the Philistines, asked David where he had been battling, David only mentioned the region. He never stated who he was fighting. Achish just assumed it was against the Israelites because it was Israelite territory. Since David made sure no one survived his raids, a word never got back to Achish to let him suspect he made the wrong conclusion.</p>
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