{"id":70617,"date":"2024-10-28T12:21:52","date_gmt":"2024-10-28T17:21:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/?p=70617"},"modified":"2024-10-28T12:21:52","modified_gmt":"2024-10-28T17:21:52","slug":"compare-the-babylonian-coming-with-the-roman-coming","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/compare-the-babylonian-coming-with-the-roman-coming\/","title":{"rendered":"Compare the Babylonian &#8220;Coming&#8221; with the Roman &#8220;Coming&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\t<p>by Terry Wane Benton<\/p>\n<p>Both times Jerusalem was destroyed, it was the coming of the Lord through a powerful nation.<\/p>\n<p>When the Babylonians invaded and destroyed Jerusalem in 586 BC, it was the Lord of Hosts (later named Jesus) who came in &#8220;glory&#8221; (Isaiah 2:12-22). The Lord came in His glory. He came to take &#8220;vengeance&#8221; (Isaiah 1:24). Thus, the Lord was coming in glory to take vengeance.<\/p>\n<p>There is a comparison in both cases (the Babylonian invasion and the Roman invasion of AD 70) where there is mention of the Jews being His &#8220;vineyard&#8221; (Isaiah 5:4,7). There is darkness and clouds (Isaiah 5:30) in both invasions. There is &#8220;desolate&#8221; or &#8220;desolation&#8221; in both cases (Isaiah 6:11).\u00a0 Heaviness and sorrow are connected with both. The Lord encamped against them (Isaiah 29:2-3). Yes, the Lord came to encamp against Jerusalem during both invasions. Both cases have &#8220;thunder and earthquake and great noise&#8221; (Isaiah 29:6).<\/p>\n<p>But the Babylonian &#8220;coming&#8221; of the Lord was not the &#8220;<strong>first<\/strong> coming&#8221; of the Lord, and therefore, the Roman &#8220;coming of the Lord&#8221; could not be &#8220;the <b>second <\/b>coming&#8221; of the Lord. Those kinds of &#8220;comings&#8221; are numerous. They do not fit into the <b>two <\/b>comings that are personal and visible of the &#8220;Lord <strong>himself<\/strong>.&#8221; There are two of those, but numerous times, the Lord came through various armies against Israel, Judah, Egypt, Babylon, etc. Those are each said to be a visit or coming of the Lord, either in wrath against a city or nation or in coming to bless and protect (Isaiah 31:4-5). Those <b>kinds <\/b>of comings were never in person with a visible form of His presence.<\/p>\n<p>So, when Hebrews 9 speaks of the first and <b>second <\/b>coming, He is speaking of the first time in the flesh to offer Himself as a sacrifice for our sins, and the <b>second <\/b>time will also be personal and visible when He takes away to glory in heaven when we <strong>see him as he is<\/strong> (I John 3:1-3).<\/p>\n<p>But the judgment on Jerusalem is not the <b>second <\/b>coming. It is one of many of that kind. 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