{"id":5067,"date":"2019-06-17T13:54:21","date_gmt":"2019-06-17T18:54:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/?p=5067"},"modified":"2019-06-17T13:54:21","modified_gmt":"2019-06-17T18:54:21","slug":"if-a-woman-can-say-amen-then-why-cant-she-say-i-disagree","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/if-a-woman-can-say-amen-then-why-cant-she-say-i-disagree\/","title":{"rendered":"If a woman can say &#8220;Amen,&#8221; then why can&#8217;t she say &#8220;I disagree?&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\t<h2>Question:<\/h2>\n<p>If there is such a thing as a \u201csmell\u201d test, I think the \u201cAmen\u201d at least invokes a whiff. <strong>If<\/strong> you accept that a woman can randomly and audibly say \u201cAmen\u201d (meaning &#8220;I agree&#8221; or &#8220;I concur&#8221;), why could she not randomly and audibly say \u201cNo!\u201d meaning &#8220;I don\u2019t agree?&#8221;<\/p>\n\t<h2>Answer:<\/h2>\n<p>There is a difference between being one voice among many and expressing yourself individually. Using your same test, do we conclude that women should not sing at all if they are not allowed to randomly burst out in solo song during the worship service?<\/p>\n<p>In the examples where we find women saying &#8220;amen,&#8221; we see:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>In Numbers 5:19-22, a woman is to respond with &#8220;Amen, amen&#8221; in agreement with the terms of a curse if she had been cheating on her husband.<\/li>\n<li>When Moses read the curses of the Law in Deuteronomy 27, all the people, including the women, were to say &#8220;amen&#8221; to indicate their agreement and acceptance of the conditions.<\/li>\n<li>When the ark was brought to Jerusalem, both men and women gathered to worship (I Chronicles 16:3). After David&#8217;s praise of God, &#8220;<em>all the people said, &#8220;Amen!&#8221; and praised the LORD<\/em>&#8221; (I Chronicles 16:36).<\/li>\n<li>A similar joint &#8220;amen&#8221; was given by all the people in\u00a0Nehemiah 5:13 when Nehemiah laid out rules for the people to follow.<\/li>\n<li>As the law was read once again, &#8220;<em>And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. Then all the people answered, &#8220;Amen, Amen!&#8221; while lifting up their hands. And they bowed their heads and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground<\/em>&#8221; (Nehemiah 8:6).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Thus, we see that under the Old Law, women did say &#8220;amen&#8221; during worship, but it was at times when everyone else was also saying &#8220;amen.&#8221; Such situations were not assertions of authority. Even in the case where a woman was required to reply to the priest in Numbers 5:19-22, this was not an assertion of authority.<\/p>\n<p>Paul said, &#8220;<em>The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, <strong>just as the Law also says<\/strong><\/em>&#8221; (I Corinthians 14:34). Thus, we are directed to look at the Old Law as an example in this matter.<\/p>\n<p>Agreeing with a speaker does not indicate the person agreeing is taking on authority. The speaker is still responsible for what he says. But when a person disagrees with a speaker, then the dissenter is claiming greater authority than the speaker. &#8220;<em>But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet<\/em>&#8221; (I Timothy 2:11).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question: If there is such a thing as a \u201csmell\u201d test, I think the \u201cAmen\u201d at least invokes a whiff. If you accept that a woman can randomly and audibly say \u201cAmen\u201d (meaning &#8220;I agree&#8221; or &#8220;I concur&#8221;), why could she not randomly and audibly say \u201cNo!\u201d meaning &#8220;I don\u2019t agree?&#8221; Answer: There is a&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[20],"tags":[773,79,84],"class_list":["post-5067","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-answer","tag-amen","tag-women","tag-worship"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":5069,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/can-a-woman-speak-out-in-response-to-a-question-or-say-amen-during-the-worship\/","url_meta":{"origin":5067,"position":0},"title":"Can a woman speak out in response to a question or say &#8220;amen&#8221; during the worship?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"September 27, 2006","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: Is it scriptural for a woman to speak out during a public worship service to answer a question asked by the preacher? Is it scriptural for a woman to say \"amen\" at the close of public prayers?\u00a0 I have noticed this being done lately, and I thought women were\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":56009,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/do-you-pray\/","url_meta":{"origin":5067,"position":1},"title":"Do You Pray?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"November 21, 2007","format":false,"excerpt":"by Bill Hall in The Bulletin of the Church of Christ at New Georgia, September 30, 2007; via The Gospel Observer, December 30, 2007 The worshiper who would pray in the assembly must do more than bow his head and close his eyes. He must pray. \"Otherwise, if you bless\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Article&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Article","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/article\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":23862,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/why-are-prayers-ended-with-in-jesus-name-amen\/","url_meta":{"origin":5067,"position":2},"title":"Why are prayers ended with &#8220;In Jesus&#8217; name, Amen&#8221;?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"June 20, 2010","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: Why, when we pray, should we close the prayer with, \"In Jesus name, amen\"? Answer: The word \"amen\" is a transliterated word from the Hebrew language. Wilson's Old Testament Word Studies defines it as meaning, \"Let it be granted, let it be done, and unalterably confirmed.\" It can be\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":61767,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/amen\/","url_meta":{"origin":5067,"position":3},"title":"Amen","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"October 14, 2012","format":false,"excerpt":"by Jeffrey W. Hamilton Text: Deuteronomy 27:14-26 \u00a0 I.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Deuteronomy 27:14-26 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0A.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0What did it mean when the people said \u201cAmen?\u201d \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0B.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Amen started as a Hebrew word \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a01.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0It was transliterated into Greek and then eventually into English \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a02.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Same pronunciation, but with an English spelling \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a03.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0It also retained the original meaning. \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a04.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Interestingly, it\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Audio&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Audio","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/audio\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":84667,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/do-you-have-to-say-amen-at-the-end-of-a-prayer\/","url_meta":{"origin":5067,"position":4},"title":"Do you have to say amen at the end of a prayer?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"February 17, 2025","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: Does the Bible say you must say amen at the end of a prayer? Answer: Many prayers are recorded in the Bible, but not all end with \"Amen.\" Hannah's prayer in I Samuel 2:1-10 Solomon's prayer in I Kings 8:23-53 Daniel's prayer in Daniel 9:4-19 Jesus' prayer in John\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":7889,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/silent-in-the-churches\/","url_meta":{"origin":5067,"position":5},"title":"Silent in the Churches","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"August 20, 2006","format":false,"excerpt":"Text: I Corinthians 14:34-37 \u00a0 I.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Interest has risen in the subject of women speaking during Bible classes and in the assembly. \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0A.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0I would like for us to delve into this topic in detail, but first I would like to commend the women here. \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a01.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Recently, some of the women here became\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Sermon&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Sermon","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/sermon\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5067","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5067"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5067\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5067"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5067"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5067"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}