{"id":40412,"date":"2013-09-24T21:10:00","date_gmt":"2013-09-25T02:10:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/?p=40412"},"modified":"2025-06-24T13:17:35","modified_gmt":"2025-06-24T18:17:35","slug":"your-ignorance-of-scripture-is-shown-in-your-misquote-of-the-rosary","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/your-ignorance-of-scripture-is-shown-in-your-misquote-of-the-rosary\/","title":{"rendered":"Your ignorance of Scripture is shown in your misquote of the Rosary"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\t<h2>Question:<\/h2>\n<p>I am truly amazed at your ignorance of Scripture, as an example, you erroneously present the alleged Lord&#8217;s Prayer as part of the Rosary. Show me where in the Scripture (which you got from the Catholic Church) the heretic words&#8230;&#8221;For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.&#8221; I cannot even find this in your heretic KJV. The holy Scripture is the word of God written by inspired men selected by God. The prayer to God the Father, the &#8220;Our Father&#8221; was laid out by Jesus Christ, His words, God&#8217;s words. By what authority do you think you can improve on them?<\/p>\n<p>Also, your explanation for\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/why-dont-protestants-say-the-rosary\/\">why Protestants don&#8217;t say the Rosary<\/a>\u00a0is astonishing, as it suggests that Protestants are in agreement with your line of reasoning; but we know that is hogwash, as your 30,000 some heretic Protestant branches can&#8217;t seem to agree on anything except your soul-destroying hatred for the true Church that Jesus Christ established &#8211; the Catholic Church. You claim that only God knows the thoughts of man in your argument against Christian prayer. However, in your words, &#8220;one person does not know the thoughts of another,&#8221; you profess to exactly that when you purport to &#8220;know&#8221; what is in the heart and minds of millions of Christians who recite the Rosary as being, &#8220;often uttered by rote and not from the heart of the person.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Open your eyes, before it is too late, and receive the truth before you lose your soul to perdition. Christ established one Church He established it on this earth as a beacon for His flocks and all who would seek the truth. Jesus&#8217; kingdom is not of this world &#8211; His words &#8212; but His Church is of this world. It is here for us who are here and not in His kingdom where we are not. The yoke around your neck is the heresy of Protestantism you unwittingly profess. You have no authority of Scriptural interpretation; that is evident by the thousands of apostate divisions that have sprouted up from the so-called Reformation. You claim to be Christian, well; we will see on Judgment Day when you stand in the sight of the Lord as he tells you, &#8220;I never knew you.&#8221;<\/p>\n\t<h2>Answer:<\/h2>\n<p>Woke up a bit grumpy today, I see.<\/p>\n<p>I based my answer regarding the Rosary from\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholic.com\/tract\/the-rosary\">Catholic Answers<\/a>, an official Roman Catholic site, where it stated, &#8220;It is given in the Bible in two slightly different versions (Matt. 6:9-13; Luke 11:2-4). The one given in Matthew is the one we say. (We won&#8217;t reproduce it here. All Christians should have it memorized.)&#8221; Since the words were not given, I copied them from Matthew 6:9-13 in the New King James Version. I did not realize that the Rosary leaves off the last sentence.<\/p>\n<p>Unlike your contention, if you had looked up the passage, you would have found that the sentence is in many versions of the Bible:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen<\/em>&#8221; (Matthew 6:13, King James Version).<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<em>And do not lead us into temptation, But deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen<\/em>&#8221; (Matthew 6:13, New King James Version).<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<em>And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen<\/em>&#8221; (Matthew 6:13, New American Standard Version).<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<em>And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one<\/em>&#8221; (Matthew 6:13, New International Version).<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<em>and lead us not into temptation, but save us from evil<\/em>&#8221; (Matthew 6:13, Darby&#8217;s).<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<em>Subject us not to the trial but deliver us from the evil one<\/em>&#8221; (Matthew 6:13, New American Bible).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The mix-up has been corrected. I am curious which translation was used for the prayer. It doesn&#8217;t appear to follow the Darby translation; the King James Version seems to be the closest, with only minor changes.<\/p>\n<p>God inspires God&#8217;s Word, but translations of the text are not inspired. If you would like to discuss the debate surrounding the last line in Matthew 6:13, we can delve into the subject. However, it appears you are just looking for a fight, not information.<\/p>\n<p>I am unaware of any denomination outside of the Roman Catholic Church that says the Rosary. Why is that simple fact upsetting to you?<\/p>\n<p>The Rosary is not a &#8220;Christian prayer&#8221;; it is one of many prayers in the Roman Catholic tradition. It is not found in the Bible, nor does it wholly express concepts found in the Bible.<\/p>\n<p>The proper quote is:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit<\/em>&#8221; (II Peter 1:19-21).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>No one can alter God&#8217;s teachings; thus, when it is documented that an organization like the Roman Catholic Church has added to, subtracted from, or altered the teachings as God presented them, it should be of concern because we are judged by God&#8217;s word, not by the Roman Catholic Church. &#8220;<em>He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him &#8212; the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day<\/em>&#8221; (John 12:48).<\/p>\n<p>I hope you have a better day tomorrow.<\/p>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question: I am truly amazed at your ignorance of Scripture, as an example, you erroneously present the alleged Lord&#8217;s Prayer as part of the Rosary. Show me where in the Scripture (which you got from the Catholic Church) the heretic words&#8230;&#8221;For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.&#8221; I cannot&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[20],"tags":[1599],"class_list":["post-40412","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-answer","tag-roman-catholic-church"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":13776,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/why-dont-protestants-say-the-rosary\/","url_meta":{"origin":40412,"position":0},"title":"Why don&#8217;t Protestants say the Rosary?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"February 2, 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: I'm a Catholic, and if you don't mind, I'd like to ask you a question about the Blessed Virgin Mary. 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