{"id":39142,"date":"2021-10-28T11:43:40","date_gmt":"2021-10-28T16:43:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/?p=39142"},"modified":"2021-10-28T11:43:40","modified_gmt":"2021-10-28T16:43:40","slug":"compare-babylonian-coming-with-the-roman-coming","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/compare-babylonian-coming-with-the-roman-coming\/","title":{"rendered":"Compare Babylonian \u201cComing\u201d with the Roman \u201cComing\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\t<p>by Terry Wane Benton<\/p>\n<p>Both times Jerusalem was destroyed it was the coming of the Lord by means of a powerful nation.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/Jeremiah_sits_amidst_the_rubble_of_Jerusalem_after_its_sieg_Wellcome_V0034401-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/Jeremiah_sits_amidst_the_rubble_of_Jerusalem_after_its_sieg_Wellcome_V0034401-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1441\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>When the Babylonians invaded and destroyed Jerusalem in 586 BC it was the Lord of Hosts (later named Jesus) who came in &#8220;glory&#8221; (Isaiah 2:12-22). The Lord came in His glory. He came to take &#8220;vengeance&#8221; (Isaiah 1:24). Thus, it was the Lord coming in glory to take vengeance.<\/p>\n<p>There is a comparison in both cases (Babylonian invasion and the Roman invasion of AD 70) where there is mention of the Jews being His &#8220;vineyard&#8221; (Isaiah 5:4,7). There is &#8220;darkness&#8221; and clouds (Isa.5:30) in both invasions. There is &#8220;desolate&#8221; or &#8220;desolation&#8221; in both cases (Isaiah 6:11), Heaviness and sorrow are connected with both. The Lord encamped against them (Isaiah 29:2-3). Yes, the Lord came to encamp against Jerusalem during both invasions. There is &#8220;thunder and earthquake and great noise&#8221; (Isaiah 29:6) in both cases.<\/p>\n<p>But the Babylonian &#8220;coming&#8221; of the Lord was not the &#8220;first coming&#8221; of the Lord, and therefore, the Roman &#8220;coming of the Lord&#8221; could not be &#8220;the <b>second <\/b>coming&#8221; of the Lord. Those kinds of &#8220;comings&#8221; are numerous. They do not fit into the <b>two <\/b>comings that are personal and visible of the &#8220;Lord <strong>himself<\/strong>&#8220;. There are two of those, but numerous times of the Lord coming by means of various armies against Israel, Judah, Egypt, Babylon, etc. Those are each said to be a visit or coming of the Lord either in wrath against a city or nation or in coming to bless and protect (Isaiah 31:4-5). Those <b>kinds <\/b>of comings were never in person with a visible form of His presence.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment, so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him<\/em>&#8221; (Hebrews 9:27-28).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>When Hebrews 9 speaks of the first and <b>second <\/b>coming, He is speaking of the first time in the flesh to offer Himself as a sacrifice for our sins, and the <b>second <\/b>time will also be personal and visible when He takes away the saved to glory in heaven when we <strong>see him as he is<\/strong> (I John 3:1-3).<\/p>\n<p>But the judgment on Jerusalem is not the <b>second <\/b>coming. It is one of many of that kind. Do not be deceived!<\/p>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by Terry Wane Benton Both times Jerusalem was destroyed it was the coming of the Lord by means of a powerful nation. When the Babylonians invaded and destroyed Jerusalem in 586 BC it was the Lord of Hosts (later named Jesus) who came in &#8220;glory&#8221; (Isaiah 2:12-22). The Lord came in His glory. He came&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[27],"tags":[745,839,338,744,339],"class_list":["post-39142","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-article","tag-a-d-70-theory","tag-destruction-of-jerusalem","tag-end-times","tag-preterism","tag-second-coming"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":70617,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/compare-the-babylonian-coming-with-the-roman-coming\/","url_meta":{"origin":39142,"position":0},"title":"Compare the Babylonian &#8220;Coming&#8221; with the Roman &#8220;Coming&#8221;","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"October 28, 2024","format":false,"excerpt":"by Terry Wane Benton Both times Jerusalem was destroyed, it was the coming of the Lord through a powerful nation. 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Hamilton Text: Acts 2:14-24 \u00a0 I.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0In Peter\u2019s first sermon, he quotes the prophet Joel who warns of the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord. \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0A.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0As we read the warnings of God through the prophets, repeatedly we find references to \u201cthe day of the\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Audio&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Audio","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/audio\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":61898,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/can-there-be-more-than-one-coming\/","url_meta":{"origin":39142,"position":3},"title":"Can There Be More Than One Coming?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"July 20, 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"by Jeffrey W. 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