{"id":35777,"date":"2012-11-10T20:34:00","date_gmt":"2012-11-11T02:34:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/?p=35777"},"modified":"2021-06-15T20:36:56","modified_gmt":"2021-06-16T01:36:56","slug":"can-a-man-give-a-woman-permission-to-lead-a-part-of-the-worship-service","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/can-a-man-give-a-woman-permission-to-lead-a-part-of-the-worship-service\/","title":{"rendered":"Can a man give a woman permission to lead a part of the worship service?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\t<h2>Question:<\/h2>\n<p>This past Sunday something very disturbing happened in our worship service. Our song leader said that he as a man in the church was giving permission to a woman to lead a song. I was very disturbed by this because I don&#8217;t believe that a man has the authority to usurp what God has put in place as far as the woman&#8217;s role in worship. Can you please address this for me? Does a man have the authority to allow a woman to lead in the worship service and if so can you show me the scripture that allows this?<\/p>\n\t<h2>Answer:<\/h2>\n<p>You know the answer. Men never have been given the right to override God. To give permission to another to break a law of God is a sin. &#8220;<em>Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says<\/em>&#8221; (I Corinthians 14:34). It isn&#8217;t a popular rule, but it is the rule God gave.<\/p>\n<p>What the song leader mistakenly believed is that as long as he gave permission, then the woman would not be usurping authority as Paul taught against in &#8220;<em>And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence<\/em>&#8221; (I Timothy 2:12). The King James Version says &#8220;usurp authority,&#8221; but this translation is misleading in modern English. &#8220;A recent article (1984) by George Knight (&#8220;<em>Authenteo<\/em> in Reference to Women&#8221;) thoroughly analyzes the occurrences of\u00a0<em>authenteo<\/em>, and shows that in its earliest uses (First Century B.C. to Second Century A.D.) it means simply &#8220;to have authority.&#8221; &#8220;The authority in view in the documents is understood to be a positive concept and is in no way regarded as having any overtones of misuse of position or power, i.e. &#8216;to domineer'&#8221; (pp. 150-151). Even as late as Sixth Century A.D., this basic sense still predominated.&#8221; [<em>The Complete Biblical Library<\/em>]. However, a second flaw is that just because he gives permission to have a woman over him, it does not imply the entire church gives permission. But the real point is that he cannot give permission where God has not.<\/p>\n<p>What I don&#8217;t know is why you did not stand up and rebuke this brother for his sin, and if not accepted by the congregation, walk out.<\/p>\n\t<h2>Response:<\/h2>\n<p>Thank you for your prompt and thorough answer to my question. You are absolutely right, I did know the answer. I am meeting with the leadership this morning to air my disapproval of what was allowed to take place. Depending on the results of my meeting I may be looking for a new church home. Please keep me and my family in your prayers.<\/p>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question: This past Sunday something very disturbing happened in our worship service. Our song leader said that he as a man in the church was giving permission to a woman to lead a song. I was very disturbed by this because I don&#8217;t believe that a man has the authority to usurp what God has&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[78,82,84],"class_list":["post-35777","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-answer","tag-authority","tag-womens-roles","tag-worship"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":24215,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/can-a-woman-sign-for-the-deaf-during-worship\/","url_meta":{"origin":35777,"position":0},"title":"Can a woman sign for the deaf during worship?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"August 9, 2010","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: I understand why women are not to lead singing in worship services. 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