{"id":31321,"date":"2011-01-29T18:12:00","date_gmt":"2011-01-30T00:12:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/?p=31321"},"modified":"2021-01-29T18:18:40","modified_gmt":"2021-01-30T00:18:40","slug":"theres-no-security-for-the-believer-in-once-saved-always-saved","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/theres-no-security-for-the-believer-in-once-saved-always-saved\/","title":{"rendered":"There&#8217;s No Security for the Believer in &#8216;Once Saved, Always Saved&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\tby Al Diestelkamp<br \/>\nvia\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thinkonthesethings.com\/\">Think on These Things<\/a>, Volume 41, No. 1, Jan-Mar 2010\n<p>There is a belief in many Protestant churches, and especially popular among those who would describe themselves as &#8220;evangelicals,&#8221; known as the doctrine of &#8220;The Security of the Believer.&#8221; In Calvinism&#8217;s TULIP acronym, it is represented by the &#8220;P&#8221; for &#8220;Perseverance of the Saints.&#8221; Other terms used to promote this doctrine include &#8220;Eternal Security,&#8221; and &#8220;Impossibility of Apostasy.&#8221; Their claim is that one cannot fall from God&#8217;s grace, and thus it is commonly known as the doctrine of &#8220;once saved, always saved.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/insecure.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"280\" height=\"180\" \/>Advocates of this doctrine have a great deal of difficulty dealing with the numerous scriptures that contradict but somehow manage to put their own &#8220;spin&#8221; on them to mean other than what they say or imply.<\/p>\n<p>Besides having to deal with the scriptural arguments, they also have to come to grips with the fact that some of their &#8220;believers&#8221; have left the faith, or have again become &#8220;entangled&#8221; and &#8220;overcome&#8221; in the &#8220;pollutions of the world.&#8221; Peter said it &#8220;<em>would have been better for them not to have know the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them<\/em>&#8221; (see II Peter 2:18-22).<\/p>\n<p>This fact poses a dilemma for the believer in &#8220;once saved, always saved.&#8221; They cannot deny that some who had been among them (even in leadership roles) are like that dog that &#8220;returns to his own vomit,&#8221; but they refuse to say that he has fallen from grace.<\/p>\n<p>You see, the false doctrine of &#8220;once saved, always saved&#8221; is built on a false concept of the sovereignty of God. Their view of God&#8217;s sovereignty is that everything that happens in this world is by God&#8217;s decision, and therefore, man cannot choose to do anything. Therefore, if one is saved, he has no part in that decision. They then conclude that if God chooses to save a person, it would be impossible for him to be lost.<\/p>\n<p>Well, how do these people explain their way out of this dilemma? A hardcore Calvinist might say that despite apparent apostasy, or moral degradation, God will save them anyway. Most, however inevitably grab hold of the only other possible explanation, and claim that such persons were never really saved in the first place. In offering that explanation they are forced to admit that they cannot know whether a person is really saved until after they have died. Then the advocate of &#8220;once saved, always saved,&#8221; not having completed his life on earth, is left to wonder whether his own salvation is real. Thus, for them, their version of &#8220;the security of the believer&#8221; is really a doctrine of &#8220;the insecurity of the believer.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It is hard to read very much in the New Testament without being faced with statements that clearly contradict the &#8220;once saved, always saved&#8221; doctrine. In fact, I maintain that every inspired New Testament writer included one or more statements or warnings about followers of Jesus jeopardizing their salvation. Let me prove it:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Matthew, Mark, and Luke record the parable of the soils in which Jesus refers to some who receive the word, but &#8220;fall away&#8221;\u00a0 at the onset of tribulation or persecution (Luke 8:13).<\/li>\n<li>After believing, Simon, a former sorcerer, found himself in danger of perishing unless he repented of trying to purchase the gift of God (Acts 8:9-25).<\/li>\n<li>The apostle Paul wrote about two brothers he &#8220;delivered to Satan&#8221; after their faith had &#8220;suffered shipwreck&#8221; (I Timothy 1:19-20).<\/li>\n<li>The Hebrew writer wrote of the possibility of some falling away though they had &#8220;tasted the heavenly gift,&#8221; and had &#8220;become partakers of the Holy Spirit&#8221; (Hebrews 6:4-6).<\/li>\n<li>James urged that if one &#8220;wanders from the truth,&#8221; that if he is turned back to the truth his soul will be saved from death (James 5:19-20).<\/li>\n<li>Peter warned the elect to be vigilant because the devil &#8220;<em>walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour<\/em>&#8221; (I Peter 5:8).<\/li>\n<li>Jude felt it was necessary to write about an apostasy that was underway.<\/li>\n<li>Jesus commissioned the apostle John to warn the Christians in Pergamos to repent, or else He would &#8220;fight against them&#8221; (Revelation 2:16).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>No doubt, there are a few passages in the New Testament which, if isolated from all other scriptures might lead one to believe that a child of God cannot fall from grace (i.e., John 6:37-40). But we can&#8217;t be guilty of pitting one set of scriptures against another. If there appears to be a conflict between two statements in the scriptures, we must realize that it is our understanding that is the problem. An important rule for us in understanding scripture is to examine all the passages on the subject and then interpret them in a way that they agree. When there are two possible meanings we must choose the meaning which coincides with the other scriptures. The obvious must explain the vague.<\/p>\n<p>While rejecting the false conclusions, we must take care to acknowledge that God is sovereign-that is, He is the Supreme Authority. In His sovereignty, He chose to give men free will to choose some things in life, including whether to believe, obey and remain faithful to His word.<\/p>\n<p>We also must agree that there is security for the believer. God keeps His promises to man. The apostle Paul asked the rhetorical question, &#8220;<em>If God is for us, who can be against us?<\/em>&#8221; (Romans 8:31). He goes on to say that believers are &#8220;more than conquerors,&#8221; promising that no outside force would be able to &#8220;<em>separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus<\/em>&#8221; (Romans 8:35-39). That&#8217;s real security!<\/p>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by Al Diestelkamp via\u00a0Think on These Things, Volume 41, No. 1, Jan-Mar 2010 There is a belief in many Protestant churches, and especially popular among those who would describe themselves as &#8220;evangelicals,&#8221; known as the doctrine of &#8220;The Security of the Believer.&#8221; In Calvinism&#8217;s TULIP acronym, it is represented by the &#8220;P&#8221; for &#8220;Perseverance of&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[27],"tags":[617,427,61,58],"class_list":["post-31321","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-article","tag-apostasy","tag-eternal-security","tag-falling-from-grace","tag-once-saved-always-saved"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":90732,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/can-you-really-lose-your-salvation\/","url_meta":{"origin":31321,"position":0},"title":"Can You Really Lose Your Salvation?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"September 25, 2025","format":false,"excerpt":"by Clay Gentry You've no doubt heard the saying, \"Once saved, always saved.\" It's a slogan, rooted in Calvinism, meant to express an assurance of eternal security. But then, you've no doubt heard the counterargument: \"No, you can lose your salvation.\" While the latter is said with good intentions, I\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Article&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Article","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/article\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":17456,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/eternal-security\/","url_meta":{"origin":31321,"position":1},"title":"Eternal Security (Walker)","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"December 29, 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"by Wayne S. 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In fact, to believe such a doctrine, you would have to work against many clear verses, either outright denying them or outright ignoring them. Not only\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Article&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Article","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/article\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":89121,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/eternal-security-3\/","url_meta":{"origin":31321,"position":3},"title":"Eternal Security","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"August 5, 2025","format":false,"excerpt":"by Terry Wane Benton The writer of Hebrews talks about \"full assurance of faith\" and warns about developing \"an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God.\" Therefore, a Christian can be assured of their salvation and \"make their calling and election sure\" (II Peter 1:5-12), while acknowledging\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Article&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Article","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/article\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":36549,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/where-does-the-bible-teach-that-not-belonging-to-a-congregation-is-a-sin\/","url_meta":{"origin":31321,"position":4},"title":"Where does the Bible teach that not belonging to a congregation is a sin?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"July 10, 2021","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: Hello, I came across your question\/answer page online. My question is, where does the Word of God teach that not belonging to a congregation is an unforgivable sin and one will go to hell for not belonging to a congregation? I've heard Church of Christ preachers speak as though\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":14991,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/i-found-your-articles-pertaining-to-eternal-security-to-be-excellent\/","url_meta":{"origin":31321,"position":5},"title":"I found your articles pertaining to eternal security to be excellent","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"May 31, 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: I read some of your excellent\u00a0articles pertaining to eternal security\u00a0on your web site. It is unfortunate that more people do no share your discernment. Even though I was raised with this teaching, I have never been able to make peace with it. 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