{"id":27985,"date":"2011-07-05T18:43:00","date_gmt":"2011-07-05T23:43:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/?p=27985"},"modified":"2020-11-28T18:46:31","modified_gmt":"2020-11-29T00:46:31","slug":"what-was-the-real-sin-for-israel-asking-for-a-king","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/what-was-the-real-sin-for-israel-asking-for-a-king\/","title":{"rendered":"What was the real sin for Israel asking for a king?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\t<h2>Question:<\/h2>\n<p>How does I Samuel 8 as a whole fit in with regards to God&#8217;s history of redemption and what was the real sin for Israel asking for a king?<\/p>\n\t<h2>Answer:<\/h2>\n<p>This sounds like a question out of a theology class book. I generally decline to answer such questions. But the second half is straight forward: &#8220;<em>And the LORD said to Samuel, &#8220;Heed the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them&#8221;<\/em>&#8221; (I Samuel 8:7).<\/p>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question: How does I Samuel 8 as a whole fit in with regards to God&#8217;s history of redemption and what was the real sin for Israel asking for a king? Answer: This sounds like a question out of a theology class book. I generally decline to answer such questions. But the second half is straight&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[20],"tags":[1062,557],"class_list":["post-27985","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-answer","tag-i-samuel","tag-israel"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":91017,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/was-israel-having-a-king-sinful\/","url_meta":{"origin":27985,"position":0},"title":"Was Israel Having a King Sinful?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"October 4, 2025","format":false,"excerpt":"by Perry Hall A common position is that Israel's wanting a King was sinful (I Samuel 8). Israel even confesses, \"Pray for your servants to Yahweh your God, so that we may not die, for we have added to all our sins this evil by asking for ourselves a king\"\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Article&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Article","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/article\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":43828,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/both-david-and-saul-sinned-and-admitted-they-sinned-so-why-was-the-kingdom-taken-from-saul-but-not-david\/","url_meta":{"origin":27985,"position":1},"title":"Both David and Saul sinned and admitted they sinned, so why was the kingdom taken from Saul but not David?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"November 2, 2014","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: Hi, Good day to you. I hope you are well. My question is about two men from the holy Scriptures: King Saul and King David. 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I'm not sure if this would help your\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":35239,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/is-it-wrong-to-keep-a-secret\/","url_meta":{"origin":27985,"position":3},"title":"Is it wrong to keep a secret?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"May 12, 2021","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: Is it a sin to keep secrets? I have some secrets I want to keep hidden at the moment. Only at the right time will I reveal it. However, this is a compounding issue. Since keeping secrets may often lead to lies, and (as I've read on your website)\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":85108,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/submission-vs-acquiescence\/","url_meta":{"origin":27985,"position":4},"title":"Submission vs. Acquiescence","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"February 26, 2025","format":false,"excerpt":"by Chadwick Brewer \"And Samuel said to all the people, \"Do you see him whom the LORD has chosen? There is none like him among all the people.\" And all the people shouted, \"Long live the king!\" (I Samuel 10:24). 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