{"id":27732,"date":"2011-06-11T15:53:00","date_gmt":"2011-06-11T20:53:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/?p=27732"},"modified":"2020-11-17T15:56:23","modified_gmt":"2020-11-17T21:56:23","slug":"how-did-satan-corrupt-the-world-before-the-fall-of-man","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/how-did-satan-corrupt-the-world-before-the-fall-of-man\/","title":{"rendered":"How did Satan corrupt the world before the fall of man?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\t<h2>Question:<\/h2>\n<p>Hi!<\/p>\n<p>May I ask a question, please? How is it that Lucifer was upon this earth in the Garden of Eden in an already fallen state as the serpent and deceiver or devil? Lucifer had already corrupted the whole earth, before his fall from grace, according to the Bible. How did he manage to corrupt this whole earth with his &#8220;trafficking&#8221; before it was populated? There was only God, Adam, Eve, and Lucifer here, plus the animals God had just created. Lucifer could not possibly have already corrupted the population of this world as it was not yet populated!<\/p>\n<p>I would love to hear your explanation, please?<\/p>\n\t<h2>Answer:<\/h2>\n<p>I would be interested in what verse you based this idea upon. Jesus said, &#8220;<em>You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it<\/em>&#8221; (John 8:44). But &#8220;beginning&#8221; doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean before man was created. In another place, Jesus mentioned that marriage existed from the beginning (Matthew 19:4-6), and that included man.<\/p>\n<p>When John said, &#8220;<em>We know that we are of God, and the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one<\/em>&#8221; (I John 5:19), he was speaking of the current time and where &#8220;world&#8221; refers to the human population, not the physical earth.<\/p>\n<p>I know of no passage that teaches what you are saying.<\/p>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question: Hi! May I ask a question, please? How is it that Lucifer was upon this earth in the Garden of Eden in an already fallen state as the serpent and deceiver or devil? Lucifer had already corrupted the whole earth, before his fall from grace, according to the Bible. How did he manage to&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[235,179],"class_list":["post-27732","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-answer","tag-satan","tag-sin"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":37822,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/how-can-i-know-that-what-i-am-believing-is-the-truth\/","url_meta":{"origin":27732,"position":0},"title":"How can I know that what I am believing is the truth?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"March 16, 2013","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: Just last night I heard someone say that Lucifer was a human king and not Satan. I had thought that they were one and the same and now I am quite confused and discouraged because so many people view the Bible differently. How can I know that what I\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":3897,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/when-did-the-devil-fall\/","url_meta":{"origin":27732,"position":1},"title":"When did the Devil fall?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"January 23, 2006","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: Please comment on the fall of the devil. Was it before the creation of the world (Earth) or after the creation of the world? Where was he thrown? Answer: The Bible contains only a little bit of material concerning the origins of Satan. See the lesson \"Satan\" in the\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":37851,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/why-wasnt-satan-and-his-angels-offered-forgiveness\/","url_meta":{"origin":27732,"position":2},"title":"Why wasn&#8217;t Satan and his angels offered forgiveness?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"March 17, 2013","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: Hello, I just stumbled into your website. I have a question. God commands us to forgive and this I accept but my question is: Why did God not forgive Lucifer, the devil? We need to follow the examples of God. Is there a reason why God refused to forgive\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":28652,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/who-is-the-most-powerful-angel\/","url_meta":{"origin":27732,"position":3},"title":"Who is the most powerful angel?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"August 30, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: When God created the angels, who were the most powerful? I have heard people say before I was saved that Michael was the most powerful and others say it was Satan. I know the Catholics hold Michael in high esteem, bordering on idolatry. Some people think Satan was God's\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":7929,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/why-do-people-call-satan-a-fallen-angel\/","url_meta":{"origin":27732,"position":4},"title":"Why do people call Satan a fallen angel?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"November 30, 2006","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: Where in the Bible does the idea come that Satan is a fallen angel? It cannot be Isaiah 14:12 or Ezekiel 28:13-15; these refer to the kings of Babylon and Tyre. Doesn't the dragon in Revelation refer to the future? Also what is meant by \"spirits in prison?\" Answer:\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":27462,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/should-we-respect-satan\/","url_meta":{"origin":27732,"position":5},"title":"Should we respect Satan?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"May 18, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: Below I copy and pasted from a web site with their beliefs on Satan and I emphasized the part that disturbs me. I was wondering what your thoughts on it are. 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