{"id":27163,"date":"2011-04-10T21:14:00","date_gmt":"2011-04-11T02:14:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/?p=27163"},"modified":"2020-11-09T21:17:04","modified_gmt":"2020-11-10T03:17:04","slug":"how-could-david-see-his-child-when-david-hasnt-ascended-to-heaven","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/how-could-david-see-his-child-when-david-hasnt-ascended-to-heaven\/","title":{"rendered":"How could David see his child when David hasn&#8217;t ascended to heaven?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\t<h2>Question:<\/h2>\n<p>Hello,<\/p>\n\n<p>You said that David would see his child when he died.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t understand this because Acts 2:34 says that David has not ascended into the heavens. (David was long dead by this time).\u00a0 Also, John 3:13 says no one has ascended into heaven except Christ.\u00a0 Also, John 5:28 says that all are in the graves and that they will hear His voice and come forth.<\/p>\n<p>It seems from all these scriptures and many more, that Christ will return to the Mount of Olives (and the mount shall split in two Zechariah 14:4)\u00a0and those waiting in the graves will hear the Trumpet (I Cor 15) and be raised from the grave.<\/p>\n<p>I read the Bible a lot and have found this to be a question.\u00a0 I guess my question is:\u00a0 Don&#8217;t you believe in the Resurrection?\u00a0 Revelation 20 talks about the Resurrections too.<\/p>\n\t<h2>Answer:<\/h2>\n<p>I believe the confusion comes about because death is a two-step journey. See\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/when-you-die-do-you-go-straight-to-heaven-or-hell\/\">When you die, do you go straight to heaven or hell?<\/a> for details. God says that after death, we enter the realm of the dead, which is called the grave (<em>Sheol<\/em>\u00a0in the Hebrew and\u00a0<em>Hades<\/em>\u00a0in the Greek).<\/p>\n<p>David said, &#8220;But now he has died; why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me&#8221; (II Samuel 12:23). David could join his child in the grave, and eventually in Heaven after the Judgment, but now that the child has died, the child cannot return to David.<\/p>\n<p>At the time Peter spoke David was still in the grave, &#8220;<em>For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he says himself: &#8216;The LORD said to my Lord, &#8220;Sit at My right hand, till I make Your enemies Your footstool&#8221;<\/em>&#8221; (Acts 2:34-35). The resurrection had not yet taken place. The same is true of Jesus&#8217; statement: &#8220;<em>No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man<\/em>&#8221; (John 3:13). Only Jesus, who left heaven, is able to return to heaven after his death. &#8220;<em>Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession<\/em>&#8221; (Hebrews 4:14). So, yes, those who have died are still in the graves awaiting the call. &#8220;<em>Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth &#8212; those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation<\/em>&#8221; (John 5:28-29).<\/p>\n<p>How you conclude that I might not believe in the resurrection from David saying he would join his child after death is something I cannot figure out.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed &#8212; in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: &#8220;Death is swallowed up in victory&#8221;<\/em>&#8221; (I Corinthians 15:51-54).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question: Hello, You said that David would see his child when he died.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t understand this because Acts 2:34 says that David has not ascended into the heavens. (David was long dead by this time).\u00a0 Also, John 3:13 says no one has ascended into heaven except Christ.\u00a0 Also, John 5:28 says that all are&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[111,109],"class_list":["post-27163","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-answer","tag-david","tag-death"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":39105,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/how-can-jesus-say-no-man-ascended-to-heaven-when-enoch-and-elijah-did\/","url_meta":{"origin":27163,"position":0},"title":"How can Jesus say no man ascended to heaven when Enoch and Elijah did?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"May 31, 2013","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: If John 3:13 states that no man ascended to heaven except Christ, then how come both Enoch in Genesis 5:24 \u00a0and \u00a0Elijah in II Kings 2:1 ascended? Answer: \"No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":25273,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/can-you-explain-some-of-the-prophecies-about-christ\/","url_meta":{"origin":27163,"position":1},"title":"Can you explain some of the prophecies about Christ?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"December 15, 2010","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: The Bible says that Jesus committed mistakes; it's in II Samuel 7:12-17. I'm guessing it was like, in the day that Jesus, when he was 12, went to the place to discuss with the wise men. His parents noticed He was missing when they were going back home already.\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":43944,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/how-can-christ-rule-on-davids-throne-while-in-heaven\/","url_meta":{"origin":27163,"position":2},"title":"How can Christ rule on David&#8217;s throne while in heaven?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"November 11, 2014","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: One of my students states \"... that Christ has to rule on David's throne, I didn't know David had a throne in heaven ...\" Is this student coming from a Baptist line of thinking? Thanks for your help. Answer: There are numerous denominations that ascribe to a premillennial form\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":590,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/what-happens-to-children-when-they-die\/","url_meta":{"origin":27163,"position":3},"title":"What happens to children when they die?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"September 5, 2003","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: What happens to children when they die? Answer: The Bible states that children go to heaven when they die. Take a look at this example: \"So Nathan went to his house. Then the LORD struck the child that Uriah's widow bore to David, so that he was very sick.\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":21363,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/isnt-joseph-the-father-of-jesus-in-luke-3\/","url_meta":{"origin":27163,"position":4},"title":"Isn&#8217;t Joseph the father of Jesus in Luke 3?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"April 8, 2020","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: Sir, Regarding your article about David being the father of Jesus.\u00a0 ( the human father, of course.) You say that Mary, in the genealogy in Luke 3, is linked to David, but that is not so. Joseph is linked to David in both Matthew 1 and Luke 3. Or\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":47733,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/why-did-god-kill-davids-son-when-it-was-david-who-sinned\/","url_meta":{"origin":27163,"position":5},"title":"Why did God kill David&#8217;s son when it was David who sinned?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"March 21, 2016","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: Could you please explain II Samuel 12:14? It seems that the child died because of what David did. But the Bible says that a child shall not die for the sins of the father. Thank you. Answer: \"The soul who sins shall die. 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