{"id":26116,"date":"2011-02-16T21:52:00","date_gmt":"2011-02-17T03:52:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/?p=26116"},"modified":"2020-09-19T21:59:40","modified_gmt":"2020-09-20T02:59:40","slug":"cant-the-building-be-used-for-things-other-than-worship","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/cant-the-building-be-used-for-things-other-than-worship\/","title":{"rendered":"Can&#8217;t the building be used for things other than worship?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\t<h2>Question:<\/h2>\n<p>The church building is what it is &#8212; a building. The way we use &#8220;fellowship&#8217; is to socialize. Every time people meet before worship they are said to fellowship with one another. Fellowship is not the same thing as the Lord&#8217;s supper; however, a type of fellowship is involved in the process. A fellowship meal is not the Lord&#8217;s supper. It is not even a part of worship. Can the building not be used for anything except worship? I find no scripture that says what we can do in the building other than how to worship. It doesn&#8217;t say we\u00a0<em>have<\/em>\u00a0to leave the building after worship is over. No command that it remain empty six days a week and we pay the bills. If one is going to say it is wrong to eat in the same building where we worship then show me the proof. I will\u00a0<em>not<\/em>\u00a0rely on what anyone says, only the Bible.<\/p>\n<p>Did God authorize air conditioning in the church? Or electricity? Let&#8217;s get our facts straight. No one is saying a meal is a part of\u00a0<em>worship<\/em>. Give me scripture as to how we are to\u00a0<em>use<\/em> the building. There is plenty of scripture as to how we worship, but not how we use a building. We could worship in someone&#8217;s home or in the parking lot for that matter. Were people forbidden to eat at home after they worshiped there? I don&#8217;t care what\u00a0<em>you<\/em>\u00a0think. I want to know what the Bible says about it.<\/p>\n\t<h2>Answer:<\/h2>\n<p>It is clear that you did not bother reading the prior answers to questions similar to your own because your accusations are not based on what I&#8217;ve said, but what you suppose I believe.<\/p>\n<p>Before directing you to the answers to your questions, let me point out how you&#8217;ve taken a classic liberal approach to the Scriptures. A liberal finds justification in an authoritative document based on what the document does not say. A liberal approach states that when something is not expressly forbidden, then it is allowed. A conservative approach is the opposite. Something that is not expressly allowed, directly or implied, is forbidden.<\/p>\n<p>You actually acknowledge that you have no justification for your practice when you demand proof for the use of electricity and air conditioning. You do use these, but you believe you do so without authority. The root of your argument then is that if somethings can be done without authority, other things can be done as well. That is a liberal approach.<\/p>\n<p>You demand that I prove points, yet you never prove your points. You claim you only follow the Bible but all you offer me is your opinions. Yet, you demand that I must meet a standard higher than the one you offer. Still, I take Peter&#8217;s command seriously: &#8220;<em>If anyone speaks, let him speak as the oracles of God. If anyone ministers, let him do it as with the ability which God supplies, that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belong the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen<\/em>&#8221; (I Peter 4:11). So take a look at the following:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/kitchens-and-fellowship-halls-what-was-the-issue\/\">Kitchens and Fellowship Halls: What Was the Issue?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/why-is-eating-in-the-building-an-issue\/\">Why is eating in the building an issue?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/can-a-hall-used-by-a-church-for-worship-also-be-rented-for-a-potluck-by-members\/\">Can a hall used by a church for worship also be rented for a potluck by members?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/do-you-sell-everything-you-have-why-do-you-have-an-air-conditioned-building\/\">Do you sell everything you have? Why do you have an air-conditioned building?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/finding-liberty-in-silence\/\">Finding Liberty in Silence<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>If, after examining the Scriptures raised in these answers and articles, you are able to support your position from the Scriptures and show that I mishandled them, then we can discuss our differences as reasonable adults.<\/p>\n\t<h2>Question:<\/h2>\n<p>You quickly sent my mind to politics. I don&#8217;t think in political terms when my mind is on the Bible. There are a lot of things on your web site that are not <em>in<\/em> the Bible. Who is any man to say that fellowship meals are wrong? It would be impossible to worship if we expect the Bible to give authority for everything we do. It doesn&#8217;t tell us what time to hold services or how the building is to be designed, kitchen, or no kitchen. Can the preacher use a microphone? By what authority? It&#8217;s not in the Bible. Perhaps you should stay with what the Bible says rather than putting up a web site about what the Bible does <em>not<\/em>\u00a0say.<\/p>\n\t<h2>Answer:<\/h2>\n<p>You are still missing scriptural evidence and your reply is devoid of any reasoned argument. You make accusations without evidence. My conclusion is that you have no basis for your statements and are instead simply trying to be argumentative.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife<\/em>&#8221; (II Timothy 2:23)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and useless. Reject a divisive man after the first and second admonition, knowing that such a person is warped and sinning, being self-condemned<\/em>&#8221; (Titus 3:9-11).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question: The church building is what it is &#8212; a building. The way we use &#8220;fellowship&#8217; is to socialize. Every time people meet before worship they are said to fellowship with one another. Fellowship is not the same thing as the Lord&#8217;s supper; however, a type of fellowship is involved in the process. A fellowship&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_seo_schema_type":"","footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[20],"tags":[151,192,152],"class_list":["post-26116","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-answer","tag-eating-in-the-building","tag-liberalism","tag-social-activities"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":19369,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/can-we-have-meals-in-the-building-since-eating-together-is-an-expression-of-fellowship\/","url_meta":{"origin":26116,"position":0},"title":"Can we have meals in the building since eating together is an expression of fellowship?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"July 7, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: Someone has been arguing with me about fellowship and they say it is okay to have meals together in the building because eating together is an expression of fellowship. He says, \"If eating together and having fun together is not an expression of fellowship, then what is it?\" He\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":19698,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/you-shouldnt-write-against-having-kitchens-and-fellowship-halls-since-these-arent-important-to-salvation\/","url_meta":{"origin":26116,"position":1},"title":"You shouldn&#8217;t write against having kitchens and fellowship halls since these aren&#8217;t important to salvation","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"July 31, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: I stumbled across your web site and found some very valuable information that may help me in the future. I disagree, however, with one of your beliefs. Having a kitchen or a potluck at the church building is not wrong. The church building is just that -- a building.\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":30095,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/fellowship-halls\/","url_meta":{"origin":26116,"position":2},"title":"Fellowship Halls? (Dunagan)","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"January 10, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"by Mark Dunagan Somewhere in the past, the idea entered the Church of Christ that it would be all right to take the funds collected on the first day of the week and construct a church building which would include such things as a kitchen and a large dining room\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":55535,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/church-kitchens-and-fellowship-halls\/","url_meta":{"origin":26116,"position":3},"title":"Church Kitchens and Fellowship Halls","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"November 5, 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"by David Riggs Church buildings with kitchens and fellowship halls are quite common today because the social gospel has gained acceptance in the minds of many. In fact, more and more churches of Christ are running headlong in that direction with complete apostasy being the only outcome. Unauthorized There is\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Article&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Article","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/article\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":63314,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/the-real-issue-regarding-kitchens-and-fellowship-halls\/","url_meta":{"origin":26116,"position":4},"title":"The Real Issue Regarding Kitchens and Fellowship Halls","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"August 5, 2012","format":false,"excerpt":"by Jeffrey W. 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