{"id":25638,"date":"2020-09-02T15:01:33","date_gmt":"2020-09-02T20:01:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/?p=25638"},"modified":"2020-09-02T15:05:08","modified_gmt":"2020-09-02T20:05:08","slug":"if-the-gifts-of-god-are-irrevocable-shouldnt-the-gifts-of-the-holy-spirit-continue","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/if-the-gifts-of-god-are-irrevocable-shouldnt-the-gifts-of-the-holy-spirit-continue\/","title":{"rendered":"If the gifts of God are irrevocable, shouldn&#8217;t the gifts of the Holy Spirit continue?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\t<h2>Question:<\/h2>\n<p>Hi,<\/p>\n<p>I have a question about gifts of the spirit ceasing. Romans 11:28-29 says &#8220;From the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but from the standpoint of God\u2019s choice they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.&#8221;. I understand in the context it is talking about salvation for Jews and Gentiles among other related things, but what does &#8220;gifts&#8221; in v. 29 refer to? Is it really referring to salvation by the gift of grace or is it referring to miraculous gifts of the Spirit?<\/p>\n<p>The Greek word for gifts in Romans 11:29 is &#8220;<em>charismata<\/em>&#8220;, which means a gift of grace or free gift. But it is also the same Greek word used in I Corinthians 12:9 when it talks about gifts of healing.<\/p>\n<p>So how do we know Romans 11:29 isn&#8217;t talking about spiritual gifts such as healing? Also, it says the gifts are irrevocable. Does that mean if it were talking about miraculous gifts, that the gifts would never be taken away or revoked? And on a related note, even if it were talking about the gift of grace in reference to salvation, would that mean salvation would never be revoked?<\/p>\n<p>Thanks.<\/p>\n\t<h2>Answer:<\/h2>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;The baseball\u00a0<em><strong>pitcher<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0asked for a\u00a0<em><strong>pitcher<\/strong><\/em> of water.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It is a mistake to assume that a word always refers to the same thing, especially if it is found in different contexts and that word is a common word.<\/p>\n<p>The gift under consideration is found in Romans 11:27, &#8220;<em>This is My covenant with them, when I take away their sins.<\/em>&#8220;<\/p>\n<p>The Jews, as a whole, opposed the Gospel which was encouraged so that the Gentiles could enter into God\u2019s covenant. But the Jews remain able to return to God because of His promise to their forefathers (Deuteronomy 7:8; 9:5; 10:15). God won\u2019t completely destroy them, despite all their sins (I Thessalonians 2:14-16). God doesn\u2019t remove His promises (Numbers 23:19). This doesn\u2019t mean that the consequences to any individual or generation remain the same regardless of their behavior (Jeremiah 18:7-10). However, the chance to benefit from God\u2019s gifts remain, waiting for people to turn from their sins. God doesn\u2019t pull His offers back (I Samuel 15:29; Psalms 89:35-56; Ezekiel 24:14; Titus 1:2; Hebrews 6:18; James 1:17).<\/p>\n<p>The word &#8220;gifts&#8221; is in the plural form because each person receives a gift of salvation from his sins.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Question: Hi, I have a question about gifts of the spirit ceasing. Romans 11:28-29 says &#8220;From the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but from the standpoint of God\u2019s choice they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.&#8221;. I understand&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[20],"tags":[428,120],"class_list":["post-25638","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-answer","tag-gifts-of-the-holy-spirit","tag-romans"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":7100,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/the-gift-of-the-holy-spirit\/","url_meta":{"origin":25638,"position":0},"title":"The Gift of the Holy Spirit (Hamilton)","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"October 29, 2017","format":false,"excerpt":"by Jeffrey W. Hamilton Text: Acts 2:29-39 \u00a0 I.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Our text - Acts 2:38-39 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0A.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0When a person repents and is baptized, two things are promised: forgiveness of sin and receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit. \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a01.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0This promise is for all Christians - \u201cAs many as the Lord shall call.\u201d \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a02.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0It\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Audio&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Audio","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/audio\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":37273,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/how-can-we-be-given-grace-without-repentance\/","url_meta":{"origin":25638,"position":1},"title":"How can we be given grace without repentance?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"February 20, 2013","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: What does this mean? 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There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are differences\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Answer&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Answer","link":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/category\/answer\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":2829,"url":"https:\/\/www.lavistachurchofchrist.org\/cms\/what-are-the-gifts-of-the-holy-spirit\/","url_meta":{"origin":25638,"position":3},"title":"What are the gifts of the Holy Spirit?","author":"Jeffrey Hamilton","date":"May 18, 2005","format":false,"excerpt":"Question: What are the gifts of the Holy Spirit? Answer: When used in the plural (more than one gift), the gifts of the Holy Spirit refer to the miraculous gifts that Holy Spirit gave the early Christians. \"There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 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