Tamar – La Vista Church of Christ https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms Fri, 13 Nov 2020 02:57:30 +0000 en hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/cropped-LaVistaBanner-Copy-1-32x32.png Tamar – La Vista Church of Christ https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms 32 32 157465916 Wouldn’t it have been a sin for Tamar and Amnon to marry? https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/wouldnt-it-have-been-a-sin-for-tamar-and-amnon-to-marry/ Tue, 17 May 2011 01:54:00 +0000 https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/?p=27442

Question:

Was it not a sin for Tamar and Amnon to get married because they were from the same father, even though they had sex?

Answer:

A difficulty arises when multiple laws are violated at the same time and penalties for these different laws vary.

  • Amnon lusted after an unmarried woman, which violated the teaching, "The righteousness of the upright will deliver them, but the unfaithful will be caught by their lust" (Proverbs 11:6).
  • Amnon had sex with his sister, which violated, "The nakedness of your sister, the daughter of your father, or the daughter of your mother, whether born at home or elsewhere, their nakedness you shall not uncover" (Leviticus 18:9). The consequence of this law is "If a man takes his sister, his father's daughter or his mother's daughter, and sees her nakedness and she sees his nakedness, it is a wicked thing. And they shall be cut off in the sight of their people. He has uncovered his sister's nakedness. He shall bear his guilt" Leviticus 20:17).
  • Amnon raped an unmarried woman, which violated, "If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out, then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days" (Deuteronomy 22:28-29). This passage is broader than just rape, "seized" carries the idea of enticing in Hebrew, but it can be applied to force sex as well.
  • Amnon refused to marry Tamar, which was the consequence of having sex with her, and thus broke Deuteronomy 22:28-29 in a different way. It wasn't his decision under the Law of Moses.

So applying all the laws being broken:

  • Amnon would be forced to pay 50 shekels for Tamar's dowry.
  • If David allowed (Exodus 22:16-17), he would have to marry Tamar with no option for divorce.
  • Amnon would no longer be considered an Israelite, regardless of whether he was forced to marry Tamar or not.

One of the sad points of this story is that these laws were not upheld. This is why Absalom thought he was justified to murder his brother.

]]> 27442 God has revealed to me the names of sexual demons https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/god-has-revealed-to-me-the-names-of-sexual-demons/ Sun, 26 Aug 2007 02:04:30 +0000 https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/?p=11795

Question:

In the past couple of weeks, God has been revealing to me the names of sexual demons: Incubi and Succubi. In this story of Tamar and Amnon was Amnon possessed by either one of these demons. Or, was Amnon the demon himself?

Answer:

"I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed" (Galatians 1:6-9).

God said through Jude, "Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints" (Jude 3). Yet you are claiming to have additional revelations that God hasn't mentioned before. By your own words, you have labeled yourself to be a liar. "Indeed, let God be true but every man a liar" (Romans 3:4).

The names "Incubi and Succubi" do not appear in the Bible. In the story of Amnon and Tamar (I Samuel 13) that Amnon was a son of David and half-brother to Tamar (I Samuel 13:1). Throughout the story, the blame for the rape is laid on Amnon's shoulders because it was his choice.

Quit seeking to excuse your own sins by trying to blame your poor choices on nonexistent causes.

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