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		<title>Can a woman lead a song outside of worship?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2019 21:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question: Recently there was a funeral of one of our former members. It was held at their home. Our members preached the service, led songs, and one of the prayers. Then the family said that two ladies wanted to sing a song. They sang a song that we sing many times in worship. They asked&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>Recently there was a funeral of one of our former members. It was held at their home. Our members preached the service, led songs, and one of the prayers. Then the family said that two ladies wanted to sing a song. They sang a song that we sing many times in worship. They asked the rest of us to sing along with the chorus. Many people there were not Christians.</p>
<p>Here are our questions: Is it scriptural for women to lead songs about God? Should we have sung with them?</p>
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<p>The focus of songs in the church is to teach and admonish each other.</p>
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<li>"<em>Speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody with your heart to the Lord</em>" (Ephesians 5:19).</li>
<li>"<em>Let the word of Christ richly dwell within you, with all wisdom teaching and admonishing one another with psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with thankfulness in your hearts to God</em>" (Colossians 3:16).</li>
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<p>But a rule that Paul told us is: "<em>But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet</em>" (I Timothy 2:12). Even though it is combined with music, songs are still a form of teaching and leading a song is exercising authority.</p>
<p>The funeral was not a worship service of the church, but the command given by Paul was not limited to just times of worship.</p>
<p>Christians cannot control what non-Christians do, but they can choose not to participate in things that are against God's law. For the same reason, I don't pray along with others when a woman is leading the prayer at some event, and I definitely don't say "amen" at the end.</p>
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<p>Thank you for your quick response. This information is very helpful to us.</p>
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		<title>How Song Leaders Can Pick Good Hymns</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2015 01:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[by Matthew W. Bassford via His Excellent Word Over the past month or two, I've heard from a few people who were wondering why I was writing so much about good and bad hymns. What's the take-home? What's the so-what? I have an extremely strong view of congregational autonomy, so I'm not trying to dictate to&#8230;]]></description>
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	<p class="author" style="text-align: right;">by Matthew W. Bassford<br />
via <a href="http://hisexcellentword.blogspot.com/2015/12/how-song-leaders-can-pick-good-hymns.html">His Excellent Word</a></p>
<p>Over the past month or two, I've heard from a few people who were wondering why I was writing so much about good and bad hymns. What's the take-home? What's the so-what? I have an extremely strong view of congregational autonomy, so I'm not trying to dictate to anybody else how they should worship. That's between them and God. Instead, I am to aim to persuade, to change the way that Christians think about hymns. In particular, I aim to persuade song leaders.</p>
<p>In my religious tradition, the people who determine what the church sings aren't the hymnists, the hymnal editors, or (these days) the PowerPoint produces and the website operators. Instead, the repertoire is the result of the aggregate efforts of tens of thousands of song leaders. If Brother Joe Bob and the others like him don't pick your hymn out at the breakfast table on Sunday morning, it doesn't matter how good the hymn is. It's not going to be sung, and it's going to be forgotten.</p>
<p>A song leader who is not a trained hymnist may well be daunted when he considers everything that I've written about hymns over the past couple of years. Tennyson famously observed, "A good hymn is the most difficult thing in the world to write," and from what I've seen, he's not far off the mark. A good, useful hymn is the product of one or more people who must possess in aggregate:</p>
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<li>A good Biblical understanding.</li>
<li>Skill with the English language (if you're writing in English, anyway).</li>
<li>A grasp of the technical nuances of hymn-lyric writing.</li>
<li>Musical talent.</li>
<li>Fluency in writing common-practice harmony.</li>
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<p>Of course, there are exceptions to the rule. Some good hymns are one-off flashes of brilliance. Usually, though, good hymns are the product of good writers, and the craft is challenging even for the best writers. The only hymn-tune composer I know of who could consistently write repertoire-level tunes was William Bradbury. If your resume starts with "Jesus Loves Me" and goes on from there, you're pretty good! I'm not aware of any author who has consistently been able to write repertoire-level hymn lyrics. Frances Havergal comes the closest, but she still struck out more than 90 percent of the time.</p>
<p>Much could be said, then, about the technical aspects of writing a good hymn. Through the years, I've said a lot of it! The good news for song leaders, though, is that they get to bypass all of that. Rules for hymnists are legion, but there is only one rule that song leaders must follow to choose good hymns for a worship service. It is this:</p>
<p class="highlight">Decide what you want to say first, then find a hymn that says it.</p>
<p>If every song leader in the brotherhood followed this rule, 95 percent of bad hymns would vanish from the repertoire. The central characteristic of a bad hymn is the absence of good content, and this rule selects for content.</p>
<p>I stumbled across the content-first rule several years ago, when my congregation changed up its Sunday-morning order of services and I began e-mailing song leaders sermons and orders of services on Friday. All of a sudden, the quality of the hymn (which had never been bad) improved substantially. Much of the time, they began selecting hymns that accompanied my sermon, and because the sermon had content (I have some small fondness for talking about the Bible from the pulpit), the hymns had content too.</p>
<p>The sermon, however, is not the only possible source of content for a song leader. My father-in-law used to lead singing quite a bit, and he liked to say, "The preacher has his sermon, and I have mine." That's fine too. A song leader who is theming a service around some Biblical topic will choose hymns that have to do with the Biblical topic and therefore are good hymns.</p>
<p>This is not true for every theme, naturally. Generic themes like "Worship" can still pull up bad hymns (because all the hymn has to do to qualify is be directed toward God). Similarly, even though the high tide of the Stamps-Baxter era was 50 years ago, it still has a strong representation in the hymns we sing about heaven, and many of those hymns are not good (quick litmus test: if the author of a hymn about heaven did not know what the sea of glass in Revelation 4:6 is, he probably did not write a good hymn). A themed service filled with homes o'er the foam where we'll never more roam will not be a rich service.</p>
<p>By and large, though, the rule stands. Themed services will contain good hymns. They also have a way of reinforcing the hymns they include that aren't as strong. A weak hymn will benefit from being surrounded by strong hymns that say similar things. The good content will spill over a little bit.</p>
<p>Even if a song leader isn't willing to go that far, though, he can select good hymns simply by thinking first about what he wants to say with each hymn individually. I've seen this one proven out too. I've seen, and from time to time will arrange, singings where song leaders are asked to preface each hymn they choose with a few comments about why they chose it. Nobody wants to say, "I chose it because I was flipping through the hymnal and saw it there," so they think about their selections beforehand. Once you start thinking, you're not going to choose a bad hymn.</p>
<p>The problem with bad hymns, then, stems almost entirely from song leaders who aren't thinking. They don't really have anything in mind to say, but their name is there on the duty roster, so they dutifully put together a song list. They'll choose a hymn that's appropriate before the Lord's Supper (99 percent of hymns before the Lord's Supper are good) and an invitation song (even if invitation hymns are not the true giants of the genre, at least they say something and are on topic), but then they fill out the rest of their list with hymnal-flipping. At that point, "I like to sing that hymn" becomes a more important consideration than "This hymn says what I want to say," and bad hymns begin emerging. Thought is the enemy of the bad hymn; thoughtlessness is its friend.</p>
<p>In summary, though it's possible to get buried by all the hymn-geek technicalities that I generate, song leaders actually have a job that is both simple and easy. If you want to pick out good hymns, all you have to do is take five minutes beforehand to figure out what you want to say. I like to pray as I'm doing this. If you choose hymns that say what you want to say, you will be choosing good hymns, hymns from which every member of the congregation will benefit.</p>
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		<title>Is it right for a church to have a paid minister of music?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2013 02:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I am a member of a Church of Christ that currently doesn't have elders. The congregation is "run" by the minister and a few hand-picked men who basically say yes to whatever the minister wants to do. This has bothered me since this minister arrived at our congregation several years back, but now things have gone too far.</p>
<p>The minister and his "leaders" have decided to hire a "minister of music" and pay him a salary. Not only that but the minister of music has been relocated from another city to fulfill this role. It's a part-time position, as he will lead songs on Sunday mornings and evenings for worship, train the song leaders that were already a part of the congregation on how to lead songs "properly" and will work with choral groups that typically sing at funerals.</p>
<p>My conflict comes because I believe this is wrong. I cannot read anywhere in my Bible about a minister of music and certainly not to be using God's money to pay him to serve in this capacity. The other issue is the congregation has been misled to believe that this individual just happened to move to the area when in actuality he was recruited with the promise of money. He's not the first song leader to be recruited by the minister to fulfill this role; he's just the first to accept. I'm now faced with possibly leaving a congregation that I've been a part of for several decades because I fear more unscriptural practices are on the horizon.</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure that there isn't, but am open to an outside perspective, but is there any type of scriptural backing for having a minister of music and paying him? And is it best to Ieave the congregation or is there a respectable way to go about getting this issue resolved considering that we don't have Biblical leadership in place?</p>
<p>Thanks for your time.</p>
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<p>There are only duties that are spoken of as paid positions in the church: the preacher (I Corinthians 9:14) and the elders (I Timothy 5:17-18).</p>
<p>There is no passage that authorizes a church to supply choral groups to sing at events. There is no "minister of music" in the New Testament.</p>
<p>I would suggest being vocal and insisting that the congregation returns to following God. "<em>And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him</em>" (Colossians 3:17). Likely you will find a few who agree with you, several more who agree but don't want to make waves, a large number who don't see what the problem is, and a few who oppose having to have authority for their actions. The result will either be the preacher is asked to leave, or the congregation will tell you to live and let live. If the congregation wants to operate without authority, then staying won't help. As you noted, it will get progressively worse. Most likely there is a sound congregation in your area, so you probably will have to move because the church you are at has lost its first love.</p>
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		<title>Can a woman lead a song while giving testimony in church?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 02:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question: Hi sir, Is it right for a woman to raise songs when she is about to give testimony? I am asking because this issue is bringing confusion among us. The Bible says a woman should not lead in the church, but when this woman is about to give her testimony about the wonderful things&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>Hi sir,</p>
<p>Is it right for a woman to raise songs when she is about to give testimony? I am asking because this issue is bringing confusion among us. The Bible says a woman should not lead in the church, but when this woman is about to give her testimony about the wonderful things God had done for her, she raises songs and the whole congregation joins her to sing. Now by doing this has she not led?</p>
<p>Please help.</p>
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<p>There is no mention of giving a personal testimony in the assemblies of the church. "Testimony" means "witness." It can refer to a person's reputation: "<em>Then a certain Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good testimony with all the Jews who dwelt there</em>" (Acts 22:12). It simply means that people spoke well of Ananias. It can refer to the Apostles' testimony concerning Jesus, "<em>Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me His prisoner, but share with me in the sufferings for the gospel according to the power of God</em>" (II Timothy 1:8). In other words, it was the teaching of the Gospel. "<em>He who believes in the Son of God has the witness in himself; he who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed the testimony that God has given of His Son. And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son</em>" (I John 5:10-11).</p>
<p>Nowhere has God asked people to stand up in church services to talk about their lives.</p>
<p>During worship services, women are not to address the assembly. "<em>Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church. Or did the word of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached? If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord</em>" (I Corinthians 14:34-37). That would include leading a congregation in song.</p>
<p>The only reason you are facing confusion is that your practices are not in line with God's teachings.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 02:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>I have a very hard time worshiping in song after someone uses a pitch pipe. I have discussed it with brethren in our congregation. Some agree they don't like it either. If we visit other places for gospel meetings, it's to me like fingernails on a chalkboard. I heard a few sermons that try and teach it's an aid. I feel it makes a noise just like a piano or guitar and now there are electronic ones. How do you feel about this matter?</p>
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<blockquote><p>"<em>Now may the God of patience and comfort grant you to be like-minded toward one another, according to Christ Jesus, that you may with one mind and one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ</em>" (Romans 15:5-6).</p></blockquote>
<p>Singing is one way a congregation jointly praises God. To accomplish the idea of one mind, we all sing the same song. The reason we have songbooks is to facilitate everyone knowing what we are about to sing. We also have a song leader in order that we might sing together as one voice. "<em>How is it then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification</em>" (I Corinthians 14:26).</p>
<p>Pitching a song is simply the practice of starting on the same key. If a song is not pitched, then the congregation generally has to wait for a few notes to find the key before joining in. They are no longer singing as one, at least at the start. I have had musical training in my youth, but I will typically sing the melody line for a while, especially if the song leader doesn't give the pitch, before switching to the usual tenor that I sing. But if the "do" (the base pitch) is given first, then I can start directly with the harmony. Harmony is not essential for a song, but it is a part of singing.</p>
<p>A pitch pipe is not a musical instrument. You can't play a melody on one. It is not even used during the song. And the song leader certainly doesn't use it because it sounds pleasant to the ear. It is done to find the proper key so that the song is not too high or too low for all the singers, thereby allowing everyone to participate in the song.</p>
<p>Can a pitch be given without a pitch pipe? Certainly, but it takes far more talent than most people have. I don't typically use a pitch pipe because I was taught how to pitch songs when I was young, but I know most people don't have the ability. Expert singers are more likely to use a pitch pipe because the correct pitch is important to them. Still, I would <em>much</em> rather see men participate is worship by leading songs, even if they are not skilled at it. The use of a pitch pipe does not make a capella singing instrumental singing.</p>
<p>Before I end, I would like to bring the phrase "like-minded" to your attention. Paul told the Corinthians to be of the same mind (I Corinthians 1:10). This doesn’t mean that they had to have exactly the same thought on every subject. Paul is talking about their thoughts about each other (Romans 12:16; 15:5-6). In other words, they should be in fellowship, having one heart and one mind (Acts 2:42; 4:32; Philippians 1:27; 2:1-2; 3:16; I Peter 3:8). It is the oneness that Jesus prayed for his disciples (John 17:21-23). To look for reasons to be offended when no offense is intended or actually given is not thinking about your brethren in the same way. Sure, you can express your preference for songs being pitched without a pitch pipe, but understand that it is your personal preference. That you allow this to interfere with joining brethren in singing is a pity.</p>
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<p>I read <a href="https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/review-of-sacred-songs-of-the-church/">your review of Jeffcoat's songbook</a> and have some questions about certain songs in general.<br />
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<p>These are songs I struggle with.  The first three seems that the songs are bringing Deity down to man's level.  Also, what are your thoughts on songs that address Jesus in prayer?  The other song, "There's a royal banner" is much different in vs. 3 than the rest of the songbooks that I have and it seems to be addressing premillennialism?  But, I could be wrong.  Finally, I would be interested to know of any other songs that you may believe to be unscriptural that I can take under advisement and study.  Thank you so much for your time.</p>
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<p>Since the writers of songs are not inspired, it is possible for the songs that we sing to contain errors, which we should always be on guard against. Still, we need to recognize that writing songs is difficult because of the restrictions of rhythm and rhyme needed for a good song. Some people decide that if a song can be understood incorrectly, then it should not be sung. By such a standard we would have to throw out all our songs because "<em>The entirety of Your word is truth</em>" (Psalm 119:160). No song can reflect the entirety of the Bible, thus no song is "truth." A song can reflect a portion of the truth, but not the whole of truth. If you are looking for a flaw, you will always find one in a song.</p>
<p>What we need to do is see if a song can be understood in a way that accurately reflects the teachings in the Scriptures. If it cannot be understood in a way that matches the teachings of the Scriptures, then it ought not to be used.</p>
<p>The song "I Come to the Garden Alone" by the author's own statements was supposed to be about prayer. As a song about prayer it is wrong because it says, "And the voice I hear, falling on my ear, the Son of God discloses." The problem is that prayer is man's communication with God. The Bible does not state that God answers prayers directly. However, if we see the garden as God's Word and our study of it, then the expressions in the song are accurate. We learn from God and He speaks to us through His teachings. Because of past objections, I often will make mention of this before leading this song.</p>
<p>"My God and I" is of a similar nature. It is describing the concept of abiding, using the imagery of man and God being together in the Garden of Eden. "<em>If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you</em>" (John 15:7). Again, we have to understand that the communication from God comes through His word and not directly to our ears or thoughts.</p>
<p>If expressing prayer to Jesus is wrong, then Stephen's prayer was wrong. "<em>And they stoned Stephen as he was calling on God and saying, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit" </em>" (Acts 7:59). The song expresses the desire to have Jesus close by in life, a sentiment Jesus talked of when he said, "<em>And lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age</em>" (Matthew 28:20). Therefore, "Jesus, Hold My Hand" can be understood in a scriptural way.</p>
<p>Concerning "There's a Royal Banner," the third verse says: "When the glory dawns -- 'tis drawing very near, It is hastening day by day -- Then before our King the foe shall disappear, And the cross the world shall sway." The song appears to be talking about Judgment Day, a day when Christ's glory does appear to all the world (Colossians 3:4). That day is not necessarily near, but we understand that with each passing day it draws closer. "<em>You also be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is at hand</em>" (James 5:8). "<em>Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching</em>" (Hebrews 10:25).</p>
<p>When Christ does come, his enemies will be sent off to hell. Jesus explained the parable of the wheat and the tares thus, "The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age" (Matthew 13:38-40).</p>
<p>Perhaps the author did believe in premillennialism when he wrote "And the cross the world shall sway." But "world" can be understood as the people of the world (John 3:16) and not the physical earth, which will be destroyed at Christ's coming (II Peter 3:10-12). Among the world that is left, the cross does hold sway, "<em>For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God</em>" (I Corinthians 1:18). Or you can see the song as saying that until Christ comes, the cross will continue to persuade the people of the world. "<em>And by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross</em>" (Colossians 1:20).</p>
<p>One song that I have not been able to find an adequate scriptural view is "Will There Be Any Stars in My Crown?" I cannot find any support for those reaching heaven to find some with starry crowns and others without.</p>
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<p>I'm searching for a CD of a capella hymns for my grandson who is attempting to lead the singing at our Wednesday night Bible studies.  He has no music training or special talent except that he is very willing.  I think the music he could sing along with would probably be best for him at this time.</p>
<p>Can you recommend albums that feature the old hymns (we use the Sacred Selections songbook, an old version) that would be appropriate for him?  Our tiny congregation doesn't have folks who can sing all the parts, so a quartet or very small group would probably be best.</p>
<p>Thanks in advance for your help. I appreciate your comments on <a href="https://lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/tag/music/">music</a> in the church on your web site.</p>
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<p>I have several suggestions.</p>
<p><span style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">R.J. Stevens conducts a music school in Oklahoma once a year. It is for those who want to learn to read shape-note music, write songs, and lead singing. See <a href="http://singingschool.net/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Singing School</a> for more information.</span></p>
<p>You don't have to wait for the next class. Brother Stevens also has books and CDs about how to lead songs. See <a href="https://www.rjstevensmusic.com/product-category/instructional/">Instructional Material</a>. These are based on the Hymns for Worship songbooks, but there are a number of common songs between that book and Sacred Selections.</p>
<p><span style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">Harding University Concert Choir has a series called Timeless and New. While not in a quartet style, it covers many older hymns and is performed in a congregational style. See <a href="https://www.scrollpublishing.com/store/product293.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Follow Me</a> and <a href="https://www.scrollpublishing.com/store/more-Harding-Greatest-Commands.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Greatest Commands</a>.</span></p>
<p>Finally, there is a quartet called Sounds of Glory that put out a series of albums called "Sing with Feeling." They feature the older songs, sung simply. (<a href="https://taylorpublications.net/index.php?route=product/product&amp;path=5_46&amp;product_id=6661">Sing with Feeling Volume 1</a>, <a href="https://www.taylorpublications.com/index.php?route=product/product&amp;path=5_46&amp;product_id=6663">Sing with Feeling Volume 2</a>, <a href="https://taylorpublications.net/index.php?route=product/product&amp;path=5_46&amp;product_id=6662">Sing with Feeling Volume 3</a>). They used to come with small booklets telling the history of each song. I don't know if that is still available or not.</p>
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<p>Thank you so much for the information. I shall explore each suggestion and hopefully find something that will be of help to my grandson.</p>
<p>Best wishes to you and your congregation for a fruitful new year.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question: Thank you so much for the tips that you have displayed on the site about Song Leading in the Church. I have been part of the church of Christ as far back as I can remember.  I am very thankful that my parents raised me in this church. I was inspired by my late Grandfather to become a&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>Thank you so much for the tips that you have displayed on the site about <a href="https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/bible-studies/mens-training-class/song-leading/">Song Leading</a> in the Church.</p>
<p>I have been part of the church of Christ as far back as I can remember.  I am very thankful that my parents raised me in this church.</p>
<p>I was inspired by my late Grandfather to become a song leader.  I do not have a great voice at all, but knowing many of the songs, gives me enough courage to stand up before God and try and lead the congregation.  There have been many times that I feel demotivated as the singing in the church is not all as great as the church that I was raised in, but then I question myself rather as I have not had lessons but still want to glorify God in this way.</p>
<p>So the tips you gave were very pleasing and helpful.  Thank you to the person or team who put that together.</p>
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<p>I'm glad the tips we teach our young men here have been useful to you also. Don't ever stop learning.</p>
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<p>I had a cassette collection of the Songs of the Church Acapella and I think they were sung by the Meistersingers. I moved and my tapes were lost and are sorely missed. Do you know of any source where I could buy another set? I am a song leader in a small church of Christ and used these tapes to learn new songs. Any information would be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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<p>I did find a tape by the Table Singers which used the songs from "Songs of the Church." See <a href="http://www.harmonies.org/catalog_ts.html">Harmonies Workshop</a> and scroll down to "Songs of the Church."</p>
<p>Most of the current songbook publishers have tapes or CDs available for the songs in the book.</p>
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<li><em>Praise for the Lord</em> has a mixture of tapes and CDs for the songs in their book which can be ordered from the publisher (800-331-5991).</li>
<li><em>Hymns for Worship</em> has four CDs for most of the songs in their book, which can be found at <a href="https://www.rjstevensmusic.com/product/hymns-for-worship-practice-cd/">RJ Stevens Music</a>. There is also an instructional DVD for the songbook that might interest you.</li>
<li><em>Psalms, Hymns, and Spiritual Songs</em>, published by <a href="https://sumphonia.com/recordings/">Sumphonia</a>, has a growing collection of CDs for the music in their songbook. They tend to publish a new CD every year.</li>
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<p>Good sources of A Capella music can be found at:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.taylorpublications.com/">Taylor Publications</a></li>
<li><a href="http://dallaschristiansound.com/">Dallas Christian Sound</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.rjstevensmusic.com/">RJ Stevens Music</a></li>
<li><a href="https://onestone.com/collections/music">One Stone</a></li>
<li><a href="https://acapeldridge.com/">Acapeldrdge</a></li>
<li><a href="https://kleinwood.com/annual-singing">Kleinwood Church of Christ's Annual Singing</a></li>
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		<title>Should young boys lead singing in worship?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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	<h2>Question:</h2>
<p>The congregation I am meeting at has, on the last Wednesday night of the month, a singing night. We don’t have classes that night. We come together in the auditorium and sing songs, pray and someone gives a short ten-minute lesson.</p>
<p>We let the boys get up in front of the congregation with their fathers and lead songs. This gives them the feeling of standing before an audience. Getting them ready for when they will do this on their own.</p>
<p>The problem was one Wednesday night, the boys picked children songs. I have nothing against the children songs. But the problem was that one song was ‘This Little Light of Mine’ and in one part of the song the kids and some of the adults were not singing but making blowing noises and waving their hands all around. Another song, I forget the entire title, something about ‘Who is the King?’ and during this song, the kids and some of the adults started to thump on their chests and go ‘Who, Who’.</p>
<p>At our next business meeting, which happened to be the very next Sunday, I mentioned this and said that I saw no difference between banging on the chest and banging on a drum. The only difference was the direction. I also thought that things were not being done in an orderly fashion. I also stated that we have no command, example, or necessary conclusion for this practice. Also that the specific ‘sing’ rules out everything else including instruments, using our bodies as instruments or body noises.</p>
<p>I said that I did not think this was proper for worship. At which time, a couple of the other members said ‘Well, is that worship?’ I told them that my thoughts were that it was. Since, we sang, prayed and evangelized. The only things we did not do are take the Lord’s Supper and contribution because the examples we have are on Sundays.</p>
<p>The men decided not to allow the boys to do this again and research it some. But nothing has been finalized about it.</p>
<p>Someone brought up the point is it wrong for them to do this. But that leads to other problems. If it is wrong, then we must teach our children that they can not do this in their classes or at home even. I personally see nothing wrong with it except during worship service.</p>
<p>My main concern is that we do all in the name of the Lord. I do not want to be over picky, but at the same time, I do not want to go beyond the word of God. I do not want to bind where God has not bound, but I honestly see this as overstepping our authority.</p>
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<p>I see three basic questions that need to be addressed:</p>
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<li>What constitutes worship?</li>
<li>Can male children lead singing if they haven't yet become Christians?</li>
<li>Should biblical songs be accompanied by "theatrics?"</li>
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<h3>What constitutes worship?</h3>
<p>Worship is a distinctive action that man does to honor and praise God (John 4:21-24). To be appropriate worship, it must be done in ways authorized by God (Matthew 15:9). Man cannot decide what God will accept as worship; God tells man what man will do to worship his Creator. Worship must also be done with the proper attitude or spirit (Matthew 15:8).</p>
<p>When Christians offer up worship as a church, they gather together in a local place to unite together in worship. "<em>And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching</em>" (Hebrews 10:24-25). Some elements of worship are only authorized to take place in such a gathering. For example, in speaking of the Lord's Supper Paul said: "<em>when you come together as a church</em>" (I Corinthians 11:18). This section of I Corinthians 11 is sprinkled with phrases indicating that it was done at a gathering (I Corinthians 11:17,18,20,33).</p>
<p>For additional information, see "<a href="http://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/what-is-worship/">What Is Worship?</a>", "<a href="http://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/gathering-together/">Gathering Together</a>," and "<a href="http://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/worship/">Worship</a>"</p>
<h3>Can male children lead singing if they haven't yet become Christians?</h3>
<p>I Corinthians 14 contains regulations on how a church's worship services were to be conducted. The rules are for when "<em>the whole church comes together in one place</em>" (I Corinthians 14:23). Things are to be done in a decent and orderly manner (I Corinthians 14:40). Because the church had come together for worship, the command was "<em>Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church</em>" (I Corinthians 14:34-35). Worship by the church is only to be conducted by the male members of the church. Women are not allowed to lead a congregation in worship because that would be usurping authority not granted to them (I Timothy 2:12). If women are not permitted to do such things as leading a congregation in singing, then what right does a congregation have to allow young children, who have yet to obey Christ, to lead the same group in song? Where can we find authority for such a practice?</p>
<h3>Should biblical songs be accompanied by "theatrics?"</h3>
<p>When teaching small children songs, it is understood that a child's mind is not fully developed: the words of the songs are kept simple, the points being made by the songs are kept simple, and the melodies used are simple. Though we have known this instinctively for centuries, small children communicate better through motion than through words. Small babies can be taught and can use sign language long before they are able to speak. Hence, motion is intertwined with children's songs so the child both understands what is being said and so he will remember the song longer.</p>
<p>I wouldn't want to make a rule that singing must be done vocally only because such would exclude deaf people who speak with their hands. However, worship by a church is done by Christians to our God. Becoming a Christian means we are mature enough to understand God's will. "<em>No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD</em>" (Jeremiah 31:34). Since we are mature, it would be time to leave childish things behind. Even though Paul is making a point about the maturing of the church, his proof is appropriate: "<em>When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things</em>" (I Corinthians 13:11). Worship shouldn't be dumbed down to make it entertaining to children.</p>
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