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		<title>Modern Churches Don&#8217;t Look Like New Testament Churches</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 14:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[by Steve Wolfgang via InLight Media Modern churches often look very different from the churches we read about in the New Testament. From liturgical traditions and denominational structures to megachurches and contemporary worship styles, many Christians wonder: Is this simply a natural development—or have we drifted from the original pattern God intended? In this episode,&#8230;]]></description>
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	<p style="text-align: right;">by Steve Wolfgang<br />
via InLight Media</p>
<p>Modern churches often look very different from the churches we read about in the New Testament. From liturgical traditions and denominational structures to megachurches and contemporary worship styles, many Christians wonder: Is this simply a natural development—or have we drifted from the original pattern God intended?</p>
<p>In this episode, Andy Diestelkamp sits down with church historian Steve Wolfgang to explore a challenging question: Should Christians today strive to conform to the model of the first-century church? Together they discuss:</p>
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<li>Why have churches changed over time?</li>
<li>Whether doctrine should adapt to culture.</li>
<li>The appeal of high-church traditions and liturgical worship.</li>
<li>The concept of restoring New Testament Christianity.</li>
<li>Why are there thousands of Christian denominations today?</li>
<li>Whether perfect restoration is possible—or even the goal.</li>
<li>How believers can pursue biblical faithfulness in a divided religious landscape.</li>
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<p>This conversation doesn't offer easy answers, but it does challenge Christians to think seriously about authority, tradition, Scripture, and the ongoing pursuit of God's design for His church.</p>
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		<title>Extra-Congregational Leadership</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2026 19:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[by Steve Dewhirst via Sentry Magazine, Vol. 21 No. 2, June 1995 “The elders who are among you I exhort...shepherd the flock of God which is among you, serving as overseers” (I Peter 5:1-2). This is God’s formula for leadership in local churches. Godly men, meeting the Lord’s criteria in I Timothy 3 and Titus 1,&#8230;]]></description>
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	<p style="text-align: right;">by Steve Dewhirst<br />
via <em>Sentry Magazine</em>, Vol. 21 No. 2, June 1995</p>
<p>“<em>The elders who are among you I exhort...shepherd the flock of God which is among you, serving as overseers</em>” (I Peter 5:1-2). This is God’s formula for leadership in local churches. Godly men, meeting the Lord’s criteria in I Timothy 3 and Titus 1, are to shepherd local congregations in the way of righteousness. This leadership is provided through teaching and personal example, and is to be motivated by a genuine love for the Lord and the sheep.</p>
<p>Deacons also exercise a degree of leadership as they “take the lead” in fulfilling various responsibilities. Then, too, ministers (preachers, evangelists, etc.) provide a measure of leadership through the proclamation of God’s word. However, the terms deacon and minister can both be translated as "servant," and their roles should be recognized as servanthood. Elders have oversight; deacons and ministers do not. Additionally, each disciple is to be a “leader” in letting his light so shine that God is glorified. But notice that all scriptural leadership occurs in the local church.</p>
<p>The church of Jesus Christ is only organized in local congregations. There is no “central committee” that issues directives to churches everywhere. We have no “presiding bishops” or “district elders” to tell us what to do. Each local church is responsible for its own decisions. There is no such concept as extra-congregational leadership in the New Testament, except for the headship of Jesus Christ (Ephesians 1:22) and the authority of His apostles (Matthew 18:18). This leadership of Christ and the apostles is given through the written word, and completely equips us for every good work (II Timothy 3:16-17). This arrangement is by divine ordination and is completely sufficient to accomplish the Lord’s will. Attempts at organizing the church universal demonstrate a profound lack of faith in the Lord to build His own church for His own purposes.</p>
<p>So what does all of this mean in practical terms? It means that each local church is to do its own work, following only the Bible as a guide. Sounds simple, doesn’t it? But men have complicated the process by assuming “the brotherhood” needs their wisdom and counsel (leadership) to survive. It’s not so much a lack of confidence in the Lord’s plan as it is a lack of confidence in the brethren — coupled with an apparent over-confidence in self.</p>
<p>When Paul spoke of his sufferings, he listed, “<em>anxiety for all the churches</em>” (II Corinthians 11:28). The problem is that some men apparently don’t know the difference between themselves and the apostle Paul! Paul had the apostolic authority to command local churches; who today may claim such authority? Now here’s the point: no one in his right mind would be so brazen as to claim such power, but men still try to exert extra-congregational leadership through intimidation in religious papers.</p>
<p>Even a cursory examination of Restoration History will reveal that every major controversy and every major division of brethren has begun with preachers battling it out in subscription journals. So, is every editor a black-hearted, egocentric sinner? No. Is it sinful for a man to publish a paper that teaches his views? No. Is it wrong to subscribe to the papers? No. Is it wrong for men to address errors as they see them? No. So, what’s the problem? The problem is the attitude of some brethren who feel the need to provide leadership in the universal church. The role of headship is the exclusive province of the Lord Jesus Christ! Men who feel compelled to “guide” churches everywhere manifest the spirit of Diotrophes, loving preeminence.</p>
<p>History furnishes damning evidence of the meddling, divisive abuse of papers as some editors and writers have sought to intimidate the brethren by “writing up” all who refuse to “toe the line.” Brethren have even been driven away from the Lord by the relentless assault of holier-than-thou watchdogs of orthodoxy. This is the very essence of sectarianism. “Follow the party line, or get out.”</p>
<p>So what are brethren in local churches to do? Keep busy in the Lord’s work, and ignore the meddlers. Self-important brethren can only maintain their pseudoauthority if we give it to them. Jesus was confident of His design for the church: local congregations, qualified elders, and the Bible as our only creed. Just as individuals will stand or fall on their own, so will local congregations (see Revelation 2 &amp; 3). Yielding to outside interference is yielding to sectarian control. We don’t need it, and the Lord won’t accept it.</p>
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		<title>What does it take to start a congregation?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2026 16:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question: Greetings, Hope this email finds you well. I have some questions about the organization and definition of a local church. My first question is: What are the necessary requirements for a group of Christians to form or constitute a local church in the biblical sense? I understand that an agreement to work together (worship,&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>Greetings,</p>
<p>Hope this email finds you well. I have some questions about the organization and definition of a local church.</p>
<p>My first question is: What are the necessary requirements for a group of Christians to form or constitute a local church in the biblical sense?</p>
<p>I understand that an agreement to work together (worship, evangelism, edification, and benevolence) is required. However, my question is more about the following: Is such an agreement sufficient to make a local church? I know it's necessary, but there's a significant difference between what is "necessary" and what is "sufficient". A "sufficient condition" guarantees the truth of another condition. This would mean that the agreement to work together as a local church is enough to make a local church. A "necessary condition" is required for something else to happen, but it does not guarantee that it will. This would mean that the agreement to work as a local church is required to constitute a local church, but other conditions are necessary as well (the agreement alone is not enough).</p>
<p>My second question is: Can a group of only Christian women form a local church? Can they collect and administer the offering and do all the work a local church is required to do?</p>
<p>Here is the reason for my first question: If the agreement between the members is enough (sufficient), then they can. However, if they can't be a local church, then this means the agreement is necessary but not sufficient (there are other requirements as well).</p>
<p>For the moment, I'll leave it here and wait for your reply. I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions and clarify my doubts. I'm not in a hurry, so take as much time as you need. I'll really appreciate a detailed answer with Bible verses supporting your conclusions. If you have any Bible study (written or video) on a topic related to this, I'll appreciate it as well.</p>
<p>May God bless you,</p>
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<p>A local church is the gathering of Christians in an area to function as a church. It is not one person, but a group.</p>
<ul>
<li>"<em>... when you come together as a church ...</em>" (I Corinthians 11:17).</li>
<li>"<em>Therefore when you meet together, it is not to eat the Lord's Supper</em>" (I Corinthians 11:20).</li>
<li>"<em>So then, my brethren, when you come together to eat, wait for one another</em>" (I Corinthians 11:33).</li>
<li>"<em>... if the whole church assembles together ...</em>" (I Corinthians 14:23).</li>
<li>"<em>What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification</em>" (I Corinthians 14:26).</li>
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<p>An important part of the gathering is to partake of the Lord's Supper together (I Corinthians 10:16-17). However, the congregation also gathers for other aspects of worship to help the members grow stronger in their faith (Ephesians 5:19; Colossians 3:16). "<em>Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful; and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds, not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near</em>" (Hebrews 10:23-25).</p>
<p>It is implied that there is a mutual agreement to work together -- not in the form of a formal document, but with the intent of each member. Governments typically request more formal documents to determine who represents the group, but such is not biblically required. For instance, to create a treasury for the collections (I Corinthians 16:1-2), a bank will require a formal document stating the organization's identity and who represents the group to the bank.</p>
<p>A congregation typically starts without elders (Acts 14:23). However, elders are needed to make a well-running organization. The church in Jerusalem existed for a while without deacons (Acts 6:1-6), but deacons make a church function better. Sometimes churches start without a preacher because Christians move to an area and start the work (Acts 8:4). Thus, a church can start and fill in the necessary roles later.</p>
<p>In the same way, if all the Christians in an area happen to be females, then a church can still start. It is not ideally organized, but that can happen later as the church grows. Women cannot be elders or deacons because the job description requires them to be husbands (I Timothy 3:1-13). A woman cannot be the preacher, but women can share the duties of teaching each other (Titus 2:3-4).</p>
<p>A congregation that is lacking parts works to mature its members to fulfill the roles, or invites qualified men to move into the area.</p>
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		<title>How can there be church autonomy when the church in Jerusalem oversaw many house churches?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2026 02:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question: Hello brother, I have a question about the autonomy of the local church. I understand that there were many house congregations in the first century. So, if there were many house congregations in Jerusalem, how can they be considered the church in Jerusalem? Also, if there were many congregations in one city, it means&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>Hello brother,</p>
<p>I have a question about the autonomy of the local church. I understand that there were many house congregations in the first century. So, if there were many house congregations in Jerusalem, how can they be considered the church in Jerusalem?</p>
<p>Also, if there were many congregations in one city, it means the elders of the Jerusalem church were overseeing many congregations rather than just one.</p>
<p>If that is so, then how will that compare to the church autonomy that we preach today?</p>
<p>Can it then be said that elders can oversee many congregations in a city?</p>
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<p>You made a jump in your argument that has no supporting evidence. It is true that some of the early churches met in homes. The church in Rome met in Aquilla and Priscilla's home (Romans 16:3-5). When they lived in Ephesus, the church met in their home there (I Corinthians 16:19). The church in Hierapolis met in Nymphas' home. The church in Laodicia met in Philemon's home (Philemon 1-2). These places were not in Jerusalem but scattered in various areas of the Roman Empire.</p>
<p>Just because some churches met in homes, it does not mean all churches did so. There is no mention of any church overseeing other churches. There is no mention of house churches in Jerusalem.</p>
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		<title>Paul&#8217;s Instructions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2026 02:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[by Hugh DeLong Paul includes many instructions on living as a disciple. Some we tend to emphasize more than others, but they are all inspired by God. I find the most difficult ones to follow are the ones that don’t fit my personality or abilities. I know I am not alone in this, for most&#8230;]]></description>
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	<p style="text-align: right;">by Hugh DeLong</p>
<p>Paul includes many instructions on living as a disciple. Some we tend to emphasize more than others, but they are all inspired by God. I find the most difficult ones to follow are the ones that don’t fit my personality or abilities. I know I am not alone in this, for most of us tend to gravitate towards the instructions (commands?) that are easiest for us to follow.</p>
<p>For example, Colossians 4:5-6: “<em>Conduct yourselves with wisdom toward outsiders, making the most of the opportunity. Let your speech always be with grace, as though seasoned with salt, so that you will know how you should respond to each person</em>.”</p>
<p>In our exuberance to spread the gospel, we can easily become overbearing and even insulting. Such pushes us to begin using ‘carnal weapons’ – insults, threats, intimidation, etc. We find that going down this path often closes doors of communication rather than causing people to want to follow Jesus.</p>
<p>What does your speech sound like to your ‘opponents’? How gracious are the words that you use? Maybe you can detect why this is often one of the more difficult characteristics of discipleship to actually follow. This is particularly true on any social media platform. When we have no real face-to-face encounter with the people we are communicating with, it becomes easier to lose any graciousness. Just read the comment section on almost any post anywhere on the internet and see how ungracious the responses are.</p>
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		<title>Must a congregation support a preacher who was hired by an eldership that later dissolved?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2025 21:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question: Many years ago, an eldership hired a preacher. Upon hiring the new preacher, the eldership promised the preacher a certain amount of pay, pay raises, and other perks. A few years later, the eldership dissolved due to elders moving away, death, etc. From when the preacher was hired many years ago to the present&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>Many years ago, an eldership hired a preacher. Upon hiring the new preacher, the eldership promised the preacher a certain amount of pay, pay raises, and other perks. A few years later, the eldership dissolved due to elders moving away, death, etc. From when the preacher was hired many years ago to the present time, membership has fallen a lot. Only a couple of dozen members are left, with about 85% being aged and on fixed income. The preacher still demands that the congregation keep the promises made to him by a dissolved eldership from when he was hired many years ago, putting financial strain on some members of the congregation.</p>
<p>Does the congregation have a moral responsibility to keep the promises made by the dissolved eldership years ago? Does the dissolution of the eldership dissolve the promises made? I am presently a member, but was not a member when the preacher was hired all those years ago, and had nothing to do with the hiring or any promises made. I do not even know the details of the promises made to the preacher. No hiring contract was involved, as far as I know. If need be, I can leave this congregation and place membership elsewhere, removing myself from the problem.</p>
<p>I would appreciate your thoughts on this situation.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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<p>I want to adjust some of your terms so that the problem becomes clearer.</p>
<p>Elderships don't "hire preachers." Congregations decide if they want to support a preacher's work in their area. Elders help lead the congregation in making a good decision about who they should support. Since it is a congregation's decision, it doesn't matter if the elders change or the eldership folds due to a lack of qualified men.</p>
<p>If the congregation no longer has the funds to support the local preacher, that is again a decision by the congregation regarding what they can supply. A congregation does not go into debt to pay for things it cannot afford. For example, if looking at the contributions, expenses, and savings, a conclusion can be made, such as saying, "In three months, we will no longer have funds to continue supporting the preacher at our current amount. We can continue at a reduced level." It is then the preacher's choice whether to stay and live on less income, find a second job, find another congregation willing to support him in his work in that area, or move to another area to work.</p>
<p>As an example, the congregation where I serve the Lord is unable to pay enough for me to live in this area. I teach at a community college to make up the difference. Except for a few years, I've been doing this for the last 30 years -- sometimes with outside support or often without it. I know many preachers who drive school buses or work some other part-time job.</p>
<p>Agreements are good, but circumstances change, and everyone must adapt to the realities of the situations they find themselves in.</p>
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<p>Thank you so much for your time. I completely agree with your point about a new preacher being a <em>congregational</em> decision. In our case, the former eldership alone chose the current preacher.</p>
<p>They have been having men's business meetings (MBMs) since there is no eldership. I have informed some that I would no longer attend the MBMs since there is no scriptural support for them. I believe in the idea of the congregation meeting over issues that need to be dealt with (Acts 15:1-6; 1 Cor 16:3), as you pointed out, choosing a preacher is a congregational decision.</p>
<p>Some claim women should not be present in such business meetings. I do not know where they get that idea from, since the New Testament does not even mention MBMs, much less who can or cannot be in attendance in such meetings. I do not believe that a woman's opinion or idea usurps the authority of men. The men can make the final decision, but I believe the entire congregation should be informed about what is happening. If women can speak in Sunday school class and give an opinion or idea without usurping the authority of men, I see no reason why they cannot have opinions or ideas on other matters without usurping the authority of men.</p>
<p>Again, thank you so much for your time</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2025 19:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[by David Gibson God always does it right the first time. Take, for example, church leadership. What church leaders are called in the New Testament What many people do not realize is that in the New Testament, there are at least three terms used synonymously: 1) pastors, 2) overseers (also called bishops), and 3) elders.&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>God always does it right the first time. Take, for example, church leadership.</p>
<h2>What church leaders are called in the New Testament</h2>
<p>What many people do not realize is that in the New Testament, there are at least three terms used synonymously: 1) pastors, 2) overseers (also called bishops), and 3) elders.</p>
<p>Commenting on Acts 20:17, 28, Bible scholar F. F. Bruce wrote, “There was in apostolic times no distinction between elders (presbyters) and bishops such as we find from the second century onwards: the leaders of the Ephesian church are indiscriminately described as elders, bishops (i.e., superintendents) and shepherds (or pastors)” (Commentary on the Book of Acts, p. 415). See also Titus 1:5-7 and I Peter 5:1-4.</p>
<p>Over the centuries, these terms have morphed into something different. A bishop has come to mean a superintendent over a diocese (district) of churches. And “pastor” is commonly used for a preacher.<br />
However, in the New Testament, “pastor” and “preacher” have distinctly different roles. A preacher could also serve as a pastor (elder) if he qualifies and is appointed to serve along with (but not over) his fellow elders. Then, he would be a pastor in the biblical sense, but he would only be <strong>a</strong> pastor, not <strong>the</strong> pastor.</p>
<h2>The autonomy of each congregation</h2>
<p>In the New Testament, each congregation was autonomous (self-governing) under the oversight of its own elders. Peter exhorts elders to “<em>shepherd the flock of God that is <strong>among you</strong></em>” (I Peter 5:2). There was no central headquarters as many denominations have today.</p>
<p>One major advantage of autonomy is that doctrinal error (false teaching) is far less likely to spread because no headquarters directs the churches under them what to believe or practice.</p>
<h2>A plurality of elders in each congregation</h2>
<ul>
<li>“. . . <em>and when they [Paul and Barnabas] had appointed <b>elders </b>for them <strong>in every church</strong></em> . . .” (Acts 14:23).</li>
<li>“<em>This is why I left you in Crete, so that you might put what remained into order, and appoint <strong>elders in every town</strong> as I directed you</em> . . .” (Titus 1:5).</li>
<li>“<em>Now from Miletus he [Paul] sent to Ephesus and called the elders of the church to come to him</em>” (Acts 20:17).</li>
<li>“<em>Paul and Timothy, servants of Christ Jesus, To all the saints in Christ Jesus who are at Philippi, with the overseers and deacons</em>” (Philippians 1:1).</li>
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<p>In my nearly fifteen years serving as an elder, I have seen God’s wisdom at work. Each elder has his own talents, perspective, and experience, resulting in a synergism that makes for greater wisdom in leadership and decision-making.</p>
<p>If we simply follow the pattern for church government in the New Testament, we will do well. God knew what was best when He organized the church as He did.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2024 18:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[by Kyle Ellison Do you currently attend a church without elders? Are you an evangelist working within a church that does not have elders currently? It is quite common that this occurs at some point in the life of a local New Testament church. What should our view and response be? If you read this,&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>Do you currently attend a church without elders? Are you an evangelist working within a church that does not have elders currently? It is quite common that this occurs at some point in the life of a local New Testament church. What should our view and response be? If you read this, you will find I may be a bit biased because of the hard work I have witnessed in the elderless church, but let’s consider some essential truths about this sometimes difficult situation.</p>
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<li>We know that churches exist or existed for some undefined time without an eldership. In Titus 1:5, Paul sent Titus to Crete to “<em>appoint elders in every city, and set in order the things which are lacking</em>.” <span style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">One does not appoint elders and <strong>then </strong>form a local church, but rather a local church is formed, and then from that group, elders are appointed (Acts 14:23; Titus 1: 5-9).</span> This means that a local church must, by necessity, exist for <span style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><strong>some </strong>time</span> as they work to become organized according to God’s plan. It may be that a church loses its eldership due to sickness, death, or life circumstances, and they, once again, spend some time preparing men for the work so that they may appoint shepherds again.</li>
<li>God’s plan is to appoint elders and deacons in His church (Acts 14:23; Titus 1:5-9). This is not denied at all. Paul describes this work to Titus as “<em>setting in order things which are lacking</em>.” We have no reason to avoid or skirt around the idea that God’s best for the local church is to be fully organized with deacons and bishops.</li>
<li>It is appropriate and <span style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><strong>okay </strong>to attend a church without elders if you intend to help them prepare</span> men to serve as elders and women to serve as elders' wives. As a smaller church preacher in this situation, <b>please </b>do not pass up a church that can use you! If you are a qualified man and aren’t serving somewhere, or you are close to a church without elders, consider joining yourself to those disciples and going to work!</li>
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<p>A few notes to conclude: I know that going to a fully organized church can have its attractions! Who likes having to be involved in what is usually handled by elders? With that said, churches without elders need them, but as they work toward it, they <b>should </b>exist and carry out their God-given work within their surrounding community. Consider how you might help the church without elders by your presence, bring your family, bring your teaching abilities, bring your gifts, and employ them in that group who <b>needs </b>you! Don’t miss a blessing by missing that smaller group.</p>
<p>We need “missionaries” right here at home, and what better time than now to get involved?</p>
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		<title>Modern Apostles?</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[by Terry Wane Benton We know the names, power, and testimony of Jesus’s twelve eye-witnessing apostles. We read their names and powers here: "Now the names of the twelve apostles are these: first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother; And when He had&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>We know the names, power, and testimony of Jesus’s twelve eye-witnessing apostles. We read their names and powers here:</p>
<blockquote><p>"<em>Now the names of the twelve apostles are these: first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother; And when He had called His twelve disciples to Him, He gave them power over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease. Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus; Simon the Cananite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed Him</em>" (Matthew 10:1-4).</p></blockquote>
<p>After Judas hung himself in guilt, Jesus chose Matthias as his replacement (Acts 1), and later personally selected Saul/Paul, whom He revealed Himself to so that Paul too could have the proper eyewitness credentials, empowering him with the proper “<em>signs of an apostle</em>” (II Corinthians 12:12). Paul did not merely make a claim of having powers from God but he <em>demonstrated</em> those powers so that none could deny he had the wide variety of miraculous powers that the other apostles demonstrated (I Corinthians 2:1-4).</p>
<h2>The Signs of an Apostle</h2>
<blockquote><p>"<em>Truly the signs of an apostle were accomplished among you with all perseverance, in signs and wonders and mighty deeds. I have become a fool in boasting; you have compelled me. For I ought to have been commended by you; for in nothing was I behind the most eminent apostles, though I am nothing</em>" (II Corinthians 12:11-12).</p></blockquote>
<p>The signs of an apostle are seen throughout the book of Acts. They were empowered to heal all illnesses, raise the dead, and lay hands on disciples to impart Holy Spirit powers to them. Signs, wonders, and mighty deeds were demonstrated and documented. Today, all who claim to be apostles of Jesus are fakes. They never saw Jesus, had no new revelations to add to the Bible, and could not demonstrate miraculous powers at all, much less of the same variety as Jesus’s real eye-witnessing apostles.</p>
<p>We are not seeking signs to believe in Jesus. His signs more than proved He came from God; we believe because of all that proof. We are not seeking signs for the eyewitness apostles of Jesus. They more than adequately demonstrated their credentials. We will indeed demand signs for any that claim to be apostles of Jesus today. We are to test all things (I John 4:1-4; I Thessalonians 5:17). We will not be gullible and accept just any empty claims of being an apostle of Jesus.</p>
<p>We don’t need to believe in any apostles today. The testimony of the original apostles of Jesus is all that we need to be saved. If someone claims that we must believe these modern apostles, they have to prove that the Bible is not enough, the personal witnesses of Jesus, the original apostles were not enough, and I have seen no proof. They don’t pass the credentials test, so I have no obligation to believe them. I do have an obligation to believe Jesus’s original eye-witness apostles. To fail to believe them is to fail to believe in Jesus and God who sent them, but I have no similar obligation to believe any so-called modern apostles. They are all self-deceived false apostles. I must demand the same proof from them that Jesus gave the original apostles. None are delivering today!</p>
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Nebuchadnezzar had made - Daniel 3:1-7</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>To not submit meant you were not loyal to the country or the king</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Which is why Nebuchadnezzar was so mad when three Jews refused -
Daniel 3:13</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>C.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>You can see it in Ephesus. Everyone assumed that all in Ephesus worshiped
Artemis - Acts 19:26-28</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>D.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>You can see it in the Old Testament societies</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Ammonites worshiped Molech - I Kings 11:7</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Ashtoreth belonged to the Sidonians - I Kings 11:33</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Chemosh to the Moabites</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>4.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Milcom was also of the Ammonites</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>E.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Even Israel belonged to God</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>When Claudias had problems, he ordered all Jews out of Rome - Acts 18:2</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>This is why who you paid taxes to was seen as a thorny problem -
Matthew 22:16-17</p>
<p style="text-indent: -2in; margin-left: 2in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>a.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>How can you remain loyal to your religion and pay taxes to a
different community?</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Yet, Jesus separated them - Matthew 22:18-22</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>F.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>The intertwining of community and religion was the norm ... until Christianity
came along</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>In the New Testament, the state is seen as a separate entity from religion -
Romans 13:3-6</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Christianity doesn&#8217;t create a culture, it influences existing cultures</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>It did not fight to tear down governments, but it did argue against idolatry</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>4.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>&#8220;Christians are not distinct from the rest of men in country or language or
customs. For neither do they dwell anywhere in special cities of their own
nor do they use a different language, nor practice a conspicuous manner of
life ... But dwelling as they do in Hellenic and barbaric cities, as each
man&#8217;s lot is and the following the customs of the country in dress and food
and the rest of life, the manner of conduct which they display is wonderful
and confessedly beyond belief. They inhabit their own fatherland, but as
sojourners; they participate in everything as citizens, and endure
everything as foreigners. Every foreign country is to them a fatherland and
every fatherland a foreign country ... They live on earth but their
citizenship is in heaven.&#8221; [<i>Epistle to Diognetus</i>, V, 1-5, c. 190]</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>5.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>In other words, early Christians took Jesus seriously - John 17:14-16</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>6.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Society was not monolithic to Christians. It may even divide families -
Matthew 10:34-38</p>
<p style="text-indent: -2in; margin-left: 2in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>a.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Can you imagine? In a world where &#8220;You are a Jew because you
were born a Jew&#8221; this concept was unfathomable and intolerable.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -0.5in; margin-left: 0.5in">II.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Roman Society</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>A.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>As Roman society started to decay, it ascribed its troubles to the lack of
uniformity in religion</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Every adversity was seen as caused by Christians not conforming to the
norm.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>If there was a drought or the rivers overflowed, then it was a sign of divine
displeasure over the nonconforming Christians</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>And so they were persecuted.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>4.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Yet, Christianity quickly infiltrated all levels of society.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>5.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>&#8220;There is not a race of men on the earth among whom converts to the
Christian faith cannot be found&#8221; [Justinus].</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>6.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>&#8220;We came on the scene only yesterday and already we fill all your
institutions, your towns, walled cities, your fortresses ... your senate and
your forums.&#8221; [Tertullian]</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>B.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Early Christians began to believe that things would be better if the state made
Christianity its religion</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>In 250, Origen wrote, &#8220;If not the entire Roman Empire should unite in the
adoration of the true God, then the Lord would fight for her, ... then she
would slay more enemies than Moses did in his day.&#8221; [<i>Contra Celsum</i>,
VII, 69].</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Tertullian opposed the idea. &#8220;What does the emperor have to do with the
church?&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>C.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Constantine, worried about the disintegrating empire, claimed to have a vision
telling him make Christianity the state religion.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>To Constantine, it was a way to integrate his society back to a single
cohesive whole.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>As one unknown writer stated &#8220;Christianity grows alien to its essence
when it is made into law for those who have been merely born instead of
reborn.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Constantine was High Priest of the Roman State religion. He did not desire
to give up his power. He entered the church with the understanding that he
would be the High Priest in Christendom. His sword had defended the old
religion and he would now use it to defend his new religion.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>D.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>By the end of the fourth century, penalties were established for the old idolatrous
practices. All were required to attend catechism classes in preparation for baptism.
Refusal brought harsh penalties.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>E.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Donatism arose in North Africa in protest to this integration of church and state.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>They insisted on independence from the Empire at all costs.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>The result was that troops were sent in to quell the rebellion</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>It wasn&#8217;t enough to be Christian, you had to be a part of the state approved
Christian religion.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>F.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Theodosius I was a Roman emperor from 379 to 395. He was instrumental in
establishing the Nicene Creed as the orthodox doctrine for the empire&#8217;s version of
Christianity</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>It was favored because it used the word &#8220;catholic&#8221; universal, which was
the state&#8217;s aim</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Theodosius ordered that &#8220;all peoples over whom our rule extends shall live
in that religion which was revealed to Saint Peter ... We give orders that all
these are to adopt the name &#8216;Catholic Christians&#8217;; the rest we shall let pass
for fools and they will have to bear the reproach of being called heretics.
They must come first under the wrath of God and then also under ours.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>G.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>While Donatism was wiped out, the spirit of it continued through the middle ages.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>&#8220;In the twelve centuries that went before the Reformation it has never
lacked for attempts to get away from the State-Church Priests&#8217; Church and
to reinstitute the apostolic congregational structurization.&#8221; [Adolf von
Harnack, <i>Die Didache und die Waldenser</i>, Leipzig, 1886, p. 269]</p>
<p style="text-indent: -0.5in; margin-left: 0.5in">III.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>The Reformation</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>A.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>At the beginning of the reformation, the various reformers leaned more toward the
Donatist view. After all, the Roman Catholic Church was in power everywhere.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>B.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>But it wasn&#8217;t long before the same mixing of church and state occurred, just on a
smaller scale.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Germans - Luthrean</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Switzerland - Calvin and Zwingli</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>England - The Church of England (Anglican)</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>C.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>For example, Zwingli had early on said that infant baptism ought not take place,
but the city council announced that all contemplated religious reforms had to be
approved by the council first and Zwingli submitted.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Others told him, &#8220;You have no business giving these decisions into the
hands of the civil power.&#8221; [Leonard Verduin, <i>The Reformers and Their
Stepchildren</i>, The Baptist Standard Bearer, p 38, 1964]</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>&#8220;As correct as this step taken by Zwingli was from the point of view of the
State, and however much it was calculated to give his ecclesiastical
endeavors greater dignity and status, it was a bad step from an evangelical
point of view, one that was certain to lead to contention and schism in the
party.&#8221; [C.A. Cornelius, II, p. 18].</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>&#8220;So conscious and so all-pervading was the acceptance of the identity of
church and society that the Reformers, each working closely with the local
magistracy and seeking to reform medieval Catholicism with as little
commotion as possible, were not even aware of a problem and were able
to pass off as political revolutionaries those who raised the question.&#8221;
[John H. Yoder, <i>Recovery</i>, p. 97].</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>D.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>We must keep in mind that the idea of a blended church and state had been the
status quo for over a thousand years. If it wasn&#8217;t for the New Testament
containing the blue-prints of the original church, there would not have been efforts
to restore it.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -0.5in; margin-left: 0.5in">IV.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>How was it justified?</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>A.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Citing Luke 22:38, the claim is that Jesus intended the church to have two swords:
the sword of the Spirit wielded by the clergy and the sword of steel wielded by the
state.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>&#8220;Two swords belong to Peter; one is in his hand, the other is at his
command whenever it is needful to draw it ... Both the spiritual and the
material sword belong to the Church; and the latter sword is drawn for the
Church, the former by the Church. One belongs to the priest and the other
to the soldiery; but this one is drawn at the orders of the priest.&#8221; [written in
A.D. 1150]</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>&#8220;The State, through which earthly objectives are reached, must be
subordinated to the Church; Church and State and two swords which God
has given to Christendom for protection; both these swords however are by
Him given to the pope and the temporal sword is then by the pope
entrusted to the rulers of State.&#8221; [Thomas Aquinas]</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>How quick was Jesus&#8217; words forgotten - John 18:36</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>4.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>It also put Peter in the right for cutting off the servant&#8217;s ear and Jesus in
the wrong for rebuking him - Matthew 26:51-52</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>B.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>The Roman Catholic Church then encourage the civil rulers to enforce church
decisions. If the civil rulers became too violent, the church would say they weren&#8217;t
responsible.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>&#8220;If a lay person believes incorrectly, he is to be returned to the true faith by
instruction. If he refuses to believe but adheres instead to his wicked error
then he shall be condemned as a heretic and burned. But in that event lay
justice must come to the aid of the Holy Church; for when anyone is
condemned as a heretic by the examinations conducted by the Holy
Church then the Holy Church must leave him to lay justice and the lay
justice must then burn him, seeing that the spiritual justice ought not to put
anyone to death.&#8221; [Philippe de Beaumanoir]</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>C.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>It carried over into the reformation. </p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Urbanus Rhegius, a trusted associate of Martin Luther, said, &#8220;When heresy
breaks forth ... then the magistrate must punish not with less but with
greater vigor than is employed against other evil-doers, robbers,
murderers, thieves, and the like.&#8221; [<i>Quellen Hesse</i>, pp 111f]</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>John Calvin had a man burned for teaching non-conforming doctrine. The
man&#8217;s death cause a great backlash. Two of Calvin&#8217;s associates wrote a
rebuttal. &#8220;Just as members of the body have, in spite of their several
functions, one single assignment in one body, so also in regard to the
Church, to the support of which both civil power and the ecclesiastical
have been divinely commissioned ... Let this then be the conclusion of this
argument: those who would bar the Christian magistracy from the care of
religion and especially from the punishment of heretics, condemn the plain
Word of God, reject the authority of the ages, and as a consequence see the
total destruction and extermination of the Church.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>3.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Calvin wrote, &#8220;As the magistrates have the duty of purging the Church of
offences by bodily punishments and coercions so do the ministers have the
duty of assisting the magistrates by reducing the number of those who
offend.&#8221; </p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>D.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>I Corinthians 12 misapplied</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>In response to a man argued that the civil authorities are for punishing
evil-doers outside the church and the church punishes by
excommunication within the church, Calvin said, &#8220;The hand cannot say to
the foot, I have no need of thee.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Taking a passage about the role of each individual within the church,
Calvin twisted it to apply societal duties since there was no perceived
difference between the community and the church</p>
<p style="text-indent: -0.5in; margin-left: 0.5in">V.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Opposing the blend of church and state was seen as being anti-government</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>A.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Calvin further stated against his detractors, &#8220;We ought not to shut out from among
us the institution of civil justice nor drive it out of the Church&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>Calvin saw church and state so intertwined that to say civil courts don&#8217;t
belong in the church is to say it doesn&#8217;t belong in society at all.</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>I wonder what they would do with I Corinthians 6:4</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1in; margin-left: 1in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>B.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>One of Calvin&#8217;s associates, Bogerman, wrote, &#8220;The service of the magistrate in
the matter of the care of religion began in the New Testament times with
Constantine the Great ... seeing that the proceeding rulers were heathen and
hostile to the Church and that Constantine put forth proper zeal to procure for the
Church outward peace and the true doctrine together with opposition for the
teachings which he considered heretical.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>1.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>He admits that the blending of church and community was not original</p>
<p style="text-indent: -1.5in; margin-left: 1.5in"><span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>2.<span>&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;</span>But he thinks it was an improvement</p>
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