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		<title>Office of Overseer</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[by Hugh DeLong Text: I Timothy 3 “It is a trustworthy statement: if any man aspires to the office of overseer, it is a fine work he desires to do” (I Timothy 3:1). There are several important words to identify: Office: The word does not primarily mean office in the sense of a position or&#8230;]]></description>
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	<p style="text-align: right;">by Hugh DeLong</p>
<p>Text: I Timothy 3</p>
<blockquote><p>“<em>It is a trustworthy statement: if any man aspires to the office of overseer, it is a fine work he desires to do</em>” (I Timothy 3:1).</p></blockquote>
<p>There are several important words to identify:</p>
<h2>Office:</h2>
<p>The word does not primarily mean office in the sense of a position or title. It means the function of oversight — the act of attentive watching and responsible care. English translations that render it as "office" convey a more institutional flavor than the Greek does.</p>
<h2>Overseer:</h2>
<p>Interestingly, this comes from the same root word as above: one who looks after, a watchman. What they 'watch' are people.</p>
<blockquote><p>"<em>Therefore, I exhort the elders among you, as your fellow elder and witness of the sufferings of Christ, and a partaker also of the glory that is to be revealed, shepherd the flock of God among you, exercising oversight not under compulsion, but voluntarily, according to the will of God; and not for sordid gain, but with eagerness; nor yet as lording it over those allotted to your charge, but proving to be examples to the flock</em>" (I Peter 5:1-3).</p></blockquote>
<h2>Work:</h2>
<p><span style="box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">“Work, deed, task, labor – something <strong>done </strong>and not merely <strong>held</strong>. Yet Paul adds ‘<strong>good </strong>– that which is fitting and admirable. ' "</span></p>
<h2>Aspire and Desire:</h2>
<p>Actually, there are <b>two </b>words here:</p>
<ul>
<li>To aspire is to extend oneself toward an object, a directional word of movement towards a goal.</li>
<li>To desire is to have an inner passion to reach the goal aspired to.</li>
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<p>What we experience is that there simply are not many men who aspire to or desire this kind of work. Men, are you one of the Lord’s disciples who desires this work?</p>
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		<title>What About Elders Who Are Lax in Their Duties?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 19:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[by Rowland Gbamis Dear Brother Rowland, Thank you for your article on “A Brief Reflection on Ezekiel 34: Faithful and Unfaithful Shepherds.” You observed that “one of the most crucial ways elders can lead by example is by demonstrating strong leadership in providing the congregation with the appropriate spiritual nourishment.” You also quoted I Peter&#8230;]]></description>
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	<p style="text-align: right;">by Rowland Gbamis</p>
<p>Dear Brother Rowland,</p>
<p>Thank you for your article on “<a href="https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/a-brief-reflection-on-ezekiel-34-faithful-and-unfaithful-shepherds/">A Brief Reflection on Ezekiel 34: Faithful and Unfaithful Shepherds</a>.” You observed that “one of the most crucial ways elders can lead by example is by demonstrating strong leadership in providing the congregation with the appropriate spiritual nourishment.” You also quoted I Peter 5:2-3, which says that God expects elders to serve "<em>not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre</em> [not for dishonest gain-NKJV]<em>, but of a ready mind; neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being examples to the flock</em>.”</p>
<p><strong>Question: </strong>What is your response to elders who do not lord it over the congregation and are so loving, yet do not actively feed the congregation with spiritual meals?</p>
<h2>Answer:</h2>
<p>Thank you for your question. When Peter commands elders to shepherd God's flock without lording over it (I Peter 5:3), we rightly warn against authoritarian control and domineering leadership. However, your observation highlights an equally dangerous opposite extreme: passive eldership, in which men hold the title but abdicate the actual work of shepherding. While some elders err by controlling and dominating, many others have relegated their fundamental responsibility to feed and nurture the congregation, often because they believe that is what the preacher is paid to do. This "hired gun" mentality reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of biblical eldership and creates a clergy/laity divide that Scripture never intended.</p>
<p>The professionalization of ministry has led many elders to believe their role is merely to make business decisions and keep church operations running smoothly, while all spiritual work—teaching, pastoral care, and discipleship—belongs to the paid minister. But this contradicts the New Testament pattern. In Acts 6:4, the apostles insisted on devoting themselves "<em>to prayer and to the ministry of the word</em>" rather than being consumed with administrative tasks—a principle that applies directly to elders today.</p>
<p>Elders are the primary shepherds of the flock, called to prioritize spiritual oversight: feeding the sheep with sound doctrine (Titus 1:9), knowing them personally (Acts 20:28), visiting the sick, comforting the grieving, and restoring the wayward (Galatians 6:1), and praying regularly for those under their care. Yet many modern elders have inverted this priority, focusing almost exclusively on buildings, budgets, and business matters while outsourcing prayer and the ministry of the word to paid staff. The preacher or evangelist serves alongside them as a fellow-laborer, often with specialized teaching gifts, but his role is to equip the saints for ministry (Ephesians 4:11-12), not to replace the elders' shepherding responsibilities. In a large congregation, a single preacher cannot know most people intimately or provide the personal spiritual oversight that a plurality of engaged elders can offer.</p>
<p>When elders retreat into boardroom management and delegate all spiritual work to paid staff, the consequences are severe and far-reaching. Members do not know their elders personally, and vice versa. Spiritual problems go unnoticed until they become crises. Preachers burn out trying to do the work of multiple shepherds; false teaching spreads unchecked; young men see no model of active shepherding to emulate; and the church becomes program-driven rather than relationship-driven. The church transforms from a family with shepherds into a business with a CEO. Biblical eldership is not a retirement from ministry or an honorary title—it is a calling to intensive, personal, sacrificial shepherding, in which mature wisdom is actively poured out rather than passively held.</p>
<p>If you would not hire a babysitter and then never check on your children, why would you hire a preacher and then disengage from the spiritual care of God's flock?</p>
<p>Elders must ask themselves: When was the last time I had a spiritual conversation with a member outside of Sunday or Wednesday Bible study? When did I last teach, lead a Bible study, or disciple someone one-on-one? Can I identify the spiritual struggles of the families in my care? Am I praying regularly and specifically for individuals in the congregation? The Acts 6:4 principle demands that elders prioritize prayer and the word over administrative minutiae, yet many elderships spend hours debating carpet colors and building maintenance while spending mere minutes in prayer and virtually no time in personal ministry of the word to their members.</p>
<p>The biblical model of leadership presents a clear partnership: elders (plural) share the shepherding responsibility of teaching, caring, and leading, devoting themselves to prayer and the ministry of the word; evangelists and preachers proclaim the gospel and equip the church; deacons serve practical needs so elders can focus on spiritual oversight (Acts 6:1-6); and all members use their gifts to build up the body (Romans 12:3-8; I Corinthians 12). Both extremes—domineering control and passive abdication—fail to reflect this model. True shepherding means elders must remember they are neither lords over God's flock nor absentee managers of a religious organization. Their primary role is to feed and nurture through active, personal, sacrificial engagement with the souls entrusted to their care, maintaining the Acts 6:4 priority of prayer and the ministry of the word while working in partnership with deacons, preachers, and the entire body to build up the church in love and truth.</p>
<p>God’s blessing!</p>
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		<title>Where Are the Elders?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2026 20:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[by Brad Harrub, Ph.D. Walk into many congregations today and ask a simple question: “Do you have elders?” Far too often, the answer is the same: “No…not yet.” Sometimes that answer has been given for 10 years…20 years…even 40-50 years. But that should cause us to pause and ask a very serious question: How did&#8230;]]></description>
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	<p style="text-align: right;">by Brad Harrub, Ph.D.</p>
<p>Walk into many congregations today and ask a simple question: “Do you have elders?”</p>
<p>Far too often, the answer is the same: “No…not yet.”</p>
<p>Sometimes that answer has been given for 10 years…20 years…even 40-50 years.</p>
<p>But that should cause us to pause and ask a very serious question: How did the early church appoint elders so quickly, yet many congregations today cannot find them after decades? Something isn’t right.</p>
<h2>The First-Century Pattern:</h2>
<p>The church began in Acts 2, around AD 30 (33). Within a relatively short period of time, elders were already functioning in the church in Jerusalem. By the time we reach Acts 11, the disciples are sending relief to the elders in Jerusalem. Not apostles only—elders.</p>
<p>Even more striking is what happened on the first missionary journey. When Paul the Apostle and Barnabas established congregations in places like Lystra and Iconium, they didn’t leave those churches in a perpetual state of congregational business meetings. Instead, Acts 14:23 says they “appointed elders in every church.”</p>
<p>Think about that.</p>
<p>Those congregations had only existed a short time, yet they already had qualified men who could serve. Contrast that with today. Many congregations have existed for half a century and still say, “We just don’t have men who qualify.”</p>
<p>How is that possible?</p>
<h2>The Qualifications Are a Target for Every Christian Man:</h2>
<p>Consider, for just a moment, the qualifications of elders given in I Timothy 3 and Titus 1. The Lord describes the kind of men who must shepherd His people. Look at some of the character traits given in Scripture:</p>
<ul>
<li>Above reproach</li>
<li>Self-controlled</li>
<li>Hospitable</li>
<li>Gentle</li>
<li>Not greedy</li>
<li>Able to teach</li>
<li>Loves what is good</li>
<li>Just</li>
<li>Holy</li>
<li>Disciplined</li>
</ul>
<p>These should not be characteristics found only in the "elite." These are the qualities every Christian man should be striving to develop. Yes, some qualifications involve circumstances—being married and having faithful children. And I know the home is a proving ground. But the character traits listed there should be the goal of every godly man in the church!</p>
<p>If a congregation goes 30 years without elders, the real question is not, “Why don’t we have elders?” The real question is: "Why have we not been producing godly men?"</p>
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<h2>The Uncomfortable Reality:</h2>
<p>Sadly, I suspect there is a reason some congregations never appoint elders—and it is uncomfortable to say out loud. Some men (and their wives) simply do not want to give up control. In many congregations, the “men’s business meeting” has become the governing structure. Decisions are made by vote. Budgets are debated. Plans are approved. And some men like it that way.</p>
<p>But the New Testament never presents congregational democracy as God’s design for leadership. God’s plan was clear: qualified shepherds leading the flock. I have never heard a men's business meeting discussing shepherding souls. It's always about budgetary concerns, whether to hire a certain preacher, paint colors, etc. When men resist appointing elders because they enjoy making decisions, they are not protecting the church—they are standing in the way of God’s design. God expected godly men to feed the flock!</p>
<h2>We Have Confused Businessmen with Shepherds:</h2>
<p><img decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-94582 aligncenter" src="https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/shepherd-1.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="225" srcset="https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/shepherd-1.jpg 640w, https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/shepherd-1-300x105.jpg 300w" sizes="(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" />Another problem is that for decades, we have sometimes used the wrong measuring stick. Instead of asking, “Is this man a shepherd?” we ask:</p>
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<li>Is he successful?</li>
<li>Does he run a business?</li>
<li>Is he good with finances?</li>
<li>Does he manage people well?</li>
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<p>Those skills may be helpful, but they are not the primary qualifications. The Bible never says elders must be good businessmen. It says they must be able to teach, hold fast to the faithful word, and shepherd the flock. Peter told the elders to “<em>shepherd the flock of God</em>” (I Peter 5:2). That language describes spiritual care, not corporate leadership.</p>
<p>What the church desperately needs are not board members. We need shepherds who know the Word of God.</p>
<h2>The Training Ground Has Been Neglected:</h2>
<p>Here is perhaps the most convincing part of this discussion. Congregations that go 20–30 years without elders are revealing something deeper: they are not intentionally training young men to lead. Young men should grow up seeing:</p>
<ul>
<li>What godly leadership looks like.</li>
<li>How to study Scripture deeply.</li>
<li>How to shepherd hurting people.</li>
<li>How to lead their families spiritually.</li>
</ul>
<p>They should be encouraged to aspire to the work. After all, I Timothy 3:1 says, “<em>If a man desires the office of a bishop, he desires a good work</em>.”</p>
<p>But if no one is mentoring them…</p>
<p>If no one is training them…</p>
<p>If no one is setting that vision before them…</p>
<p>Why would we expect them to be ready someday?</p>
<h2>The Church Deserves Shepherds:</h2>
<p>The church belongs to Jesus Christ. Scripture says He purchased it with His own blood. That means the leadership structure He designed is not optional.</p>
<p>Congregations should be asking:</p>
<ul>
<li>Are we developing godly men?</li>
<li>Are we teaching young men to love Scripture?</li>
<li>Are we preparing future shepherds?</li>
</ul>
<p>Because the truth is simple. If a congregation goes decades without elders, it is not just a leadership issue. It is a discipleship issue.</p>
<h2>Time for a Change:</h2>
<p>Imagine what would happen if every congregation started intentionally training young men to become shepherds. Imagine young men growing up thinking: “One day, I want to help shepherd God’s people.”</p>
<p>Imagine churches led not by business meetings but by wise, humble, Bible-saturated shepherds. That was the pattern of the first century. And it can be the pattern again—if we decide that producing godly shepherds is more important than maintaining the status quo.</p>
<p>The church doesn’t need more managers.</p>
<p>The church needs shepherds.</p>
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		<title>What Does Godly Leadership Look Like?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2026 02:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[by Doy Moyer In short, it looks like the love the Lord shows. The husband is to love his wife “just as Christ loved the church and gave himself for her” (Ephesians 5:25). Leadership that does not do this is not godly, but selfish. Godly leadership is not tyrannical. It is not abusive, controlling, or&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>In short, it looks like the love the Lord shows. The husband is to love his wife “<em>just as Christ loved the church and gave himself for her</em>” (Ephesians 5:25). Leadership that does not do this is not godly, but selfish. Godly leadership is not tyrannical. It is not abusive, controlling, or domineering. The standard is Christ, not their own desires.</p>
<p>How did Christ love the church? By giving Himself up for her. Philippians 2:3-8 shows what this means because it is what Jesus did. The godly leader (as all should) will do “<em>nothing out of selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility consider others as more important</em>” than himself. In the case of a husband and wife, he will, in humility, consider his wife as more important. He won’t act out of selfish ambition or empty conceit. This is the mind of Christ, who emptied Himself for us. The godly leader will seek to do the same, emptying himself for the sake of his family whom he serves. His concern is God’s will for his family, and in this, he will stand firm.</p>
<p>This coincides with Peter’s point about shepherds who exercise oversight of the flock among which they serve (I Peter 5:1-5). They do not lord it over or domineer those in their trust. Notice how this passage moves into humility toward one another. Leaders will seek to be examples in all that is godly and holy, knowing that they answer to God. The judgments they make will never be seen as rising to the level of God’s revealed will, but all that they do will be done in the manner described: humbly and lovingly, they will put others first while staying true to God’s revelation.</p>
<p>Somewhere along the way, culture has co-opted the concepts of headship and submission to mean what Scripture does not mean. Society sees these as tyrannical, resulting in doormat-style fear and shame. In Scripture, however, headship and submission (both exercised by Jesus) are always built around love, compassion, and seeking the best for others. Men who are controlling and selfish are nowhere near what Scripture describes. Those who act that way will answer at the judgment seat of Christ. They do not compromise truth and what is right, and this requires that they don’t run roughshod over others (which compromises what is right). They will protect the flock, which will include protection from those, even from within, who are savage wolves (see Acts 20:28-32). Those with depraved ways are not to be tolerated (II Peter 2:1-3).</p>
<p>Scripture shows us something rather different from worldly conceptions, and when we see how it is supposed to work, it is beautiful. Really, this is a working out of the principles espoused in the two greatest commandments. With love for God, we love one another and treat one another as we would want to be treated. Leadership, whether in the home or church, that does not operate on these principles is anathema.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[by Don Bunting via Biblical Insights, Vol. 15 No. 2, February 2015 If a prophet is not without honor, except in his own country (Matthew 13:57), then it should not surprise us that it is difficult for churches to appoint and submit to elders. While we may dream about qualified men moving in from elsewhere, reality&#8230;]]></description>
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	<p style="text-align: right;">by Don Bunting<br />
via <em>Biblical Insights</em>, Vol. 15 No. 2, February 2015</p>
<p>If a prophet is not without honor, except in his own country (Matthew 13:57), then it should not surprise us that it is difficult for churches to appoint and submit to elders. While we may dream about qualified men moving in from elsewhere, reality shows us that elders are found within the local congregation.</p>
<p>Attitudes necessary for a church to properly follow elders do not spontaneously materialize on the day of appointment. That includes the feelings about elders in general and about the particular men being appointed. Proper attitudes must grow over time as knowledge and confidence increase, so that spiritual leadership is readily accepted.</p>
<p>How do churches prepare for God’s design in church leadership? As in everything, we need to understand the Lord's will and intent through the scriptures and discern and apply those principles spiritually. Every spiritual failure is the result of worldly thinking and carnal conduct. To prepare for elders, the members of the church must develop spiritual qualities and behavior.</p>
<p>God intends that His churches be served by elders (Acts 14:23; Titus 1:5). So churches need to talk about, pray about, and study about elders until they are properly in place. Churches may not appoint men who do not meet God’s qualifications ("<em>A bishop then must be</em>..." I Timothy 3:2), so by implication, churches can exist and function without elders. Such a church is handicapped - a spiritual body functioning without necessary parts. Choosing to continue without elders when men are available to serve is a violation of God’s will. A desire for a good eldership must be cultivated. Submission to God’s instruction in this matter is essential to faithfulness.</p>
<p>God’s kingdom is a monarchy with Christ as King, Lord, and Head in His church. His authority is absolute - His word is final. That word is revealed through apostles and prophets, proclaimed by evangelists, pastors, and teachers (Ephesians 4:11-13). With or without elders, the church is not a democracy, and a representative body does not lead it. In every age, God’s people have been led by the older, wiser men who, by His word, represent God, not the people</p>
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<li>Fathers in the age of the patriarchs</li>
<li>Elders in the days of Moses and Israel</li>
<li>Elders in the Lord’s church.</li>
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<p>One danger of the business meeting is that it might teach us to value and protect the idea that every person has a voice, that everybody has a right to be heard, and that the majority decides. Such a model is not preparing us to yield to the older, follow the wiser, or trust the spiritual. Even in our necessary meetings to make decisions about our work in the Lord (without elders), we need to begin thinking in terms of following spiritual shepherds rather than a democratic model.</p>
<p>If you can’t trust your elders, who can you trust? Love “<em>bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things</em>...” (I Corinthians 13:8). Do we optimistically believe in our elders? The sheep are willing to follow the shepherd because they know his voice - they know him (John 10:1-6). A shared history and a mutual love serve as a basis for optimism and trust. Elders cannot lead and will not even be appointed where jealousy and suspicion flourish. Worldly wisdom teaches: “A preacher should not be an elder because then he will be voting on his own salary.” Carnal thinking suggests that there must always be an odd number of elders, so there will be a tiebreaker in a vote. Suspicion says that “the elders can’t all be brothers because then you have one family running the church.” Principles of the world are not needed as safeguards or checks and balances in the Lord’s church. The spiritual principles of the gospel protect the church from these fears and suspicions. We must not fear an elder or eldership because of worldly attitudes toward one another. God’s qualifications for elders provide a strong foundation for trust. To prepare for elders, let us trust one another.</p>
<p>The only power an elder possesses to rule and lead a congregation is the willing submission of each member of the church. Just as a husband has no power to compel his wife to submit and obey, an eldership cannot compel a church or a church member to do anything. The Lord’s direction compels the wife and the church to submit, but the husband and the elder cannot force obedience. The power of the shepherd is the investment of trust and love that the sheep have placed in him. His appointment is the product of that trust and love. If a church really wants elders, it needs to nurture a love for and confidence in the older, spiritual servants in the church.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[by Edward O. Bragwell, Sr. Belinda, a fine young Christian from Mexico, spent six weeks of last summer with my daughter's family. Her enthusiasm, devoutness, and general spirituality were an inspiration to us all. What a delight to see one so young and so interested in so many things, yet seeming to have her priorities&#8230;]]></description>
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	<p style="text-align: right;">by Edward O. Bragwell, Sr.</p>
<p>Belinda, a fine young Christian from Mexico, spent six weeks of last summer with my daughter's family. Her enthusiasm, devoutness, and general spirituality were an inspiration to us all. What a delight to see one so young and so interested in so many things, yet seeming to have her priorities in order.</p>
<p>The first time she visited the church where my wife and I attend, I introduced her to brother Billy Norris, one of our elders. Her face almost literally lit up as she exclaimed, "I am so happy to meet you. I never met an elder before."</p>
<p>Belinda is a faithful member of a small church in Mexico, where her father preaches and makes the bulk of his living doing secular work. Churches in that part of the world are very small, few, and far between, so it is understandable that she would not have had the opportunity to have "met an elder before." Many of these churches barely have a plurality of men, much less a plurality of men qualified for the eldership. Churches can exist and remain faithful to the Lord in such circumstances without having elders overseeing them.</p>
<p>This incident got me thinking. I wonder how many young Christians in our country, where there are more and larger churches, could empathize with Belinda? "I have never met an elder before." Many churches in areas where churches have been established for decades are without elders, and the number appears to be increasing over time. Some have never had elders. Others have had but are now without them. Something is wrong.</p>
<p>No church should appoint elders simply to claim they have elders. This does happen. A church's having elders is contingent upon there being a plurality of qualified men who can be appointed to that work. If there is anything worse than a church without elders, it is a church with unqualified men masquerading as elders. The late J.D. Tant is reported to have said that when he was a boy, he would go into the woods and cut branches off elder bushes to make pop-guns. He said the situation was later reversed. Brethren were making elders out of pop-guns. I think I may have met some of those.</p>
<p>In a relatively short time after churches were established in Lystra, Iconium, and Antioch, "<em>they</em> (Paul and his companions) <em>had appointed elders in every church</em>" (Acts 14:23). Some have wondered how these men could have met the strict qualifications, outlined by Paul in I Timothy 3 and Titus 1, in so short a time. Some have suggested that this proves these qualifications were not meant to be strictly observed, but were only general guidelines, because these men would not have had time to develop all of them, strictly speaking. So, rather than insisting on all the qualifications listed by Paul, we should appoint those who come closest to them,  the best that we have, even if they don't have all of those traits.</p>
<p>Paul would not have so carefully listed the qualifications for Timothy and Titus to follow and ignored any of them when he had a part in appointing elders. Besides, it is not unreasonable to think that there could have been men in those churches with all the qualifications. Not all qualifications need to be developed after one becomes a Christian. Obviously, those that are peculiar to the faith must come after conversion, not a novice, holy, holding fast the faithful word, being able to teach it, and by sound doctrine, both to exhort and convict those who contradict. If one applies himself, it would not take very long to develop these.</p>
<p>As to other traits, one could have had them before becoming a Christian: the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, not given to wine, not violent, not greedy, gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous, ruling his own house, etc. As to believing children, they may have been converted at the same time as their fathers were (cf. Acts 16:34; I Corinthians 1:16).</p>
<p>Churches need to pay more attention to seeking out men and helping them develop scriptural qualifications, or many of our young people will grow up without having met an elder.</p>
<p>There are many reasons for the shortage of elders among long-established congregations. Individually, developing the qualifications is simply not a high priority with many men in the church. Too, their families are not as careful as they need to be to help them meet the qualifications relating to the family. Collectively, little is done to train men to be elders. Churches often have training classes to encourage men to preach or have some other "public part." Yet, few of these classes are geared to help train men to become elders.</p>
<p>In some cases, churches are kept from having good elders by a perverted idealism. Some qualifications are absolute, such as being the husband of one wife and having believing children. Some are relative, such as being able to teach and being hospitable.</p>
<p>How many of the qualifications must one have? All of them -- both relative and absolute. If one has all of them, he can be appointed; if he lacks just one of them, he cannot be. With a relative qualification, once it is determined that one possesses it, the degree to which one has it can vary significantly from person to person. We need to be careful not to demand perfection or even near-perfection in those relative qualifications. Nor do we need to expect all the elders to possess them to the same degree. For example, we may know (or envision) elders whose hospitality or teaching abilities are extraordinary. They become our ideal. We then reject any prospective elders who, although somewhat hospitable and able to teach, are not as hospitable as our ideal. Such perverted idealism keeps some churches from having elders.</p>
<p>Sometimes, power struggles keep churches from having elders. Preachers and other members, fearful of losing some of their influence, block the appointment of elders in one way or another. Brethren, influenced by democratic models in civil governments, civic clubs, and religious organizations, have in many cases come to believe that this type of government is best for the Lord's church. The only way they will accept elders is for them to be "figureheads" who kind of lead a democratic process in the congregation.</p>
<p>This process is often accompanied by base political maneuvering. No wonder many churches feel that they can get along without elders as well as with elders, if not better. When elders are appointed, they are simply appointed to allow the congregation to claim scriptural status, but are expected and allowed to have little more than a ceremonial role.</p>
<p>The Lord's church is not a democracy. The Lord is the head with all authority (Matthew 28:18; Ephesians 1:20-23). In congregations, the Head has decreed that elders are to rule and members are to submit (I Timothy 3:5; 5:17; Hebrews 13:17). It is not majority rule. It is not minority rule. It is not  dictators rule. It is not preacher rule. It is not women rule. It is elders rule.</p>
<p>Let brethren everywhere become more diligent in desiring the position of a bishop (I Timothy 3:1). Let churches be more attentive to helping men qualify and then be eager and willing to appoint them once they are qualified. Let wives and children become more concerned with making it possible for husbands and fathers to become elders. Let members, honor, submit to, and otherwise help elders do their work, "<em>with joy and not with grief</em> " (Hebrews 13:17), so that we will not lose good men who just cannot take the pressure any longer. Yes, elders are human and limited in the amount of abuse they can endure.</p>
<p>Let elders learn to rule well, not as "<em>being lords over those entrusted to them</em>," so brethren will be less inclined to dispense with the eldership because of its abuses. Let us all recognize that the Lord's way is best for the church; yea, the only way to please the Lord. Then, maybe just maybe, our children and grandchildren will not be saying, "I never met an elder before."</p>
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<p>Hi Brother Jeffrey,</p>
<p>We have a preacher from a sister congregation teaching about God's leadership structure for the Church. He was discussing submission and that even if you don't agree with the Elders' decision-making, you should still follow through, giving the example of the Elders running a food bank at his congregation, a group of members not agreeing with it, but still being put on the rotation to serve, and doing the work. Sharing that there is a difference between submitting and agreeing. Is this what is meant and also when we are told to ' become all things to all people?'</p>
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<p>All authority comes from God (Matthew 28:19). Thus, those ruling remain under God's authority and must submit to God. Elders cannot make their own rules. Their duty is to encourage people to follow God's teachings.</p>
<blockquote><p>"<em>Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they keep watch over your souls as those who will give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with grief, for this would be unprofitable for you</em>" (Hebrews 13:17).</p></blockquote>
<p>Elders are men. There is always a possibility that some elders will go astray. "<em>I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them. Therefore be on the alert, remembering that night and day for a period of three years I did not cease to admonish each one with tears</em>" (Acts 20:29-31). A Christian is not excused for following an elder into false practices.</p>
<p>Another problem involves a person's conscience. "<em>The faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin</em>" (Romans 14:22-23). A person should not be forced into doing something he thinks is sinful. Thus, if a Christian believes a particular practice is wrong, telling him he must do it anyway is sinful. If the Christian is wrong, then more teaching is needed. "<em>Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand</em>" (Romans 14:4).</p>
<p>I assume the "food bank" at your congregation is for the general public. While it is good for Christians to help the poor, this is not something the Lord commanded congregations to do. It is commanded of individual Christians. See <a href="https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/helping-the-needy-in-our-community/">Helping the Needy in Our Community</a>. Instead of responding with scriptural teaching, the elders are telling people to do as they say, which is completely the wrong answer.</p>
<blockquote><p>"<em>For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a slave to all, so that I may win more. To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law though not being myself under the Law, so that I might win those who are under the Law; to those who are without law, as without law, <strong>though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ</strong>, so that I might win those who are without law. To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak; I have become all things to all men, so that I may by all means save some. I do all things for the sake of the gospel, so that I may become a fellow partaker of it</em>" (I Corinthians 9:19-23).</p></blockquote>
<p>Paul adapted to the people he was with, so long as those things did not violate the law of Christ. It is not an argument to do whatever someone wants to do.</p>
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<p>Thanks, Jeffrey.</p>
<p>The foodbank is currently run by two local congregations, and one of the men in our congregation would like us to start one as well.</p>
<p>What would God expect in such circumstances? Is this a time when you disagree, you quietly abstain, and only speak if asked why, or does God expect a person to speak out? I know normally a person would go to the elders, but we don't have them yet.</p>
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<p>I would ask for the scriptural justification for the practice. If the church continues to do things that God didn't authorize, then I would look for a congregation that is more faithful to God.</p>
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		<title>Must a congregation support a preacher who was hired by an eldership that later dissolved?</title>
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<p>Many years ago, an eldership hired a preacher. Upon hiring the new preacher, the eldership promised the preacher a certain amount of pay, pay raises, and other perks. A few years later, the eldership dissolved due to elders moving away, death, etc. From when the preacher was hired many years ago to the present time, membership has fallen a lot. Only a couple of dozen members are left, with about 85% being aged and on fixed income. The preacher still demands that the congregation keep the promises made to him by a dissolved eldership from when he was hired many years ago, putting financial strain on some members of the congregation.</p>
<p>Does the congregation have a moral responsibility to keep the promises made by the dissolved eldership years ago? Does the dissolution of the eldership dissolve the promises made? I am presently a member, but was not a member when the preacher was hired all those years ago, and had nothing to do with the hiring or any promises made. I do not even know the details of the promises made to the preacher. No hiring contract was involved, as far as I know. If need be, I can leave this congregation and place membership elsewhere, removing myself from the problem.</p>
<p>I would appreciate your thoughts on this situation.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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<p>I want to adjust some of your terms so that the problem becomes clearer.</p>
<p>Elderships don't "hire preachers." Congregations decide if they want to support a preacher's work in their area. Elders help lead the congregation in making a good decision about who they should support. Since it is a congregation's decision, it doesn't matter if the elders change or the eldership folds due to a lack of qualified men.</p>
<p>If the congregation no longer has the funds to support the local preacher, that is again a decision by the congregation regarding what they can supply. A congregation does not go into debt to pay for things it cannot afford. For example, if looking at the contributions, expenses, and savings, a conclusion can be made, such as saying, "In three months, we will no longer have funds to continue supporting the preacher at our current amount. We can continue at a reduced level." It is then the preacher's choice whether to stay and live on less income, find a second job, find another congregation willing to support him in his work in that area, or move to another area to work.</p>
<p>As an example, the congregation where I serve the Lord is unable to pay enough for me to live in this area. I teach at a community college to make up the difference. Except for a few years, I've been doing this for the last 30 years -- sometimes with outside support or often without it. I know many preachers who drive school buses or work some other part-time job.</p>
<p>Agreements are good, but circumstances change, and everyone must adapt to the realities of the situations they find themselves in.</p>
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<p>Thank you so much for your time. I completely agree with your point about a new preacher being a <em>congregational</em> decision. In our case, the former eldership alone chose the current preacher.</p>
<p>They have been having men's business meetings (MBMs) since there is no eldership. I have informed some that I would no longer attend the MBMs since there is no scriptural support for them. I believe in the idea of the congregation meeting over issues that need to be dealt with (Acts 15:1-6; 1 Cor 16:3), as you pointed out, choosing a preacher is a congregational decision.</p>
<p>Some claim women should not be present in such business meetings. I do not know where they get that idea from, since the New Testament does not even mention MBMs, much less who can or cannot be in attendance in such meetings. I do not believe that a woman's opinion or idea usurps the authority of men. The men can make the final decision, but I believe the entire congregation should be informed about what is happening. If women can speak in Sunday school class and give an opinion or idea without usurping the authority of men, I see no reason why they cannot have opinions or ideas on other matters without usurping the authority of men.</p>
<p>Again, thank you so much for your time</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2025 13:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>I have a question. In the absence of the formally-trained or college-trained preacher, but under the guidance of homegrown or locally trained preachers, can a church start a process of nominating potential elders, declaration of desire from nominated members, church participation in choosing those with qualities mentioned in I Timothy 3 and Titus, and finally the appointment or ordination of elders?</p>
<p>Do the scriptures allow only those with a certificate from college to supervise or lead the process of appointing elders?</p>
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<p>Would you care to cite the passage that mentions college or formal training for preachers? None exists. Preachers are to train other preachers. "<em>The things which you have heard from me in the presence of many witnesses, entrust these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also</em>" (II Timothy 2:2). Therefore, the foundation of your question is based on a requirement that does not come from God. All elders are appointed by preachers who learned to preach from other preachers. There is no school for preachers.</p>
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		<title>How do you deal with an elder&#8217;s wife&#8217;s gossiping?</title>
		<link>https://www.lavistachurchofchrist.org/cms/how-do-you-deal-with-an-elders-wifes-gossiping/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2025 22:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question: Do the wives of the elders have any authority over the other women of the congregation? Are there qualifications for the wife of an elder? How should it be handled when the wife of an elder repeats hurtful information about a member of the church she learns from her husband to others? Thank you.&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>Do the wives of the elders have any authority over the other women of the congregation?</p>
<p>Are there qualifications for the wife of an elder?</p>
<p>How should it be handled when the wife of an elder repeats hurtful information about a member of the church she learns from her husband to others?</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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<p>An elder is a position in the church (Ephesians 4:11). The wife of an elder is not. She is an older woman and should be respected for her wisdom (Titus 2:3-5), but this doesn't translate into authority over members of the church.</p>
<p>As a part of the qualifications of elders and deacons is an examination of the qualities displayed by their wives. "<em>Women must likewise be dignified, not malicious gossips, but temperate, faithful in all things</em>" (I Timothy 3:11). These are not qualifications for a woman to be an elder's wife. These are a part of a man's qualification to be an elder. If his wife is not dignified, is a malicious gossip, is not temperate, or is not faithful, then the man is not qualified to be an elder. It is similar to the qualifications that list the characteristics of an elder's children. "<em>... if any man is above reproach, the husband of one wife, having children who believe, not accused of dissipation or rebellion</em>" (Titus 1:6). If a man cannot encourage his own children to behave well and become a Christian, he isn't going to do well encouraging other people. The same applies to his leadership within his family and his interactions with his wife.</p>
<p>Preachers are told: "<em>Do not receive an accusation against an elder except on the basis of two or three witnesses. Those who continue in sin, rebuke in the presence of all, so that the rest also will be fearful of sinning</em>" (I Timothy 5:19-20). Therefore, gather your evidence. If multiple people have experienced this, encourage them to approach the elders as well. The goal should be to solve the problem, not to get revenge on the gossip. However, if the problem cannot be resolved, then it is the preacher's duty to bring a public rebuke of the elder and his wife.</p>
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<p><span data-olk-copy-source="MessageBody">Thanks for the info.</span></p>
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