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		<title>Jesus, the Amen and the Beginning</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[by Terry Wane Benton "These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God" (Revelation 3:14). The Amen Jesus is the Amen, the One who validates us. When we say “amen” at the end of a prayer, we are validating our support for that prayer. Jesus validates us.&#8230;]]></description>
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	<p style="text-align: right;">by Terry Wane Benton</p>
<blockquote><p>"<em>These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God</em>" (Revelation 3:14).</p></blockquote>
<h2>The Amen</h2>
<p>Jesus is the Amen, the One who <b>validates </b>us. When we say “amen” at the end of a prayer, we are validating our support for that prayer. Jesus validates us. He is our <b>amen </b>when the world will affirm how wrong they think we are. Jesus is the only <b>amen </b>we need. Jesus also validates our prayers. We can pray in His name, and the prayer now has validation in His name. Jesus does not validate the unbelieving until they repent and believe obediently in Him. The Jews who denied Jesus were adversaries, enemies, and persecutors of the early disciples of Jesus, but Jesus’ miracles, teaching, and resurrection proved them wrong and gave amen to the side of the disciples. The Romans were often involved in appeasing the Jews (Acts 12:1-3) and attacking, killing, and harassing the Christians. The government might not validate, honor, and protect the Christians, but Jesus is the Highest validation we can have. He is the <b>amen </b>that trumps all our opponents. We don’t need any higher validation than Him.</p>
<h2>The Faithful and True Witness</h2>
<p>He is also the “Faithful and True Witness”. He is God and has seen God the Father in all his reality and glory. So, His testimony is true, and cannot be trumped by any unbeliever’s efforts to cast doubt in His reality. How can a non-witness trump a witness? Jesus was there, and they were not. He also is a true witness of the reality of resurrection and the reality of heaven. He was “demonstrated” to be the Son of God with power by the resurrection (Romans 1:4), and of course, He came from heaven and was seen ascending back to heaven. So, heaven is real! Who has greater testimony about such realities than Jesus? His testimony as a true and faithful witness trumps all words of doubt and unbelief.</p>
<h2>The Beginning of the Creation of God</h2>
<p>Jesus is also “the beginning of the creation of God” which means He was the One who began the physical creation (Genesis 1:1ff; John 1:1-4). Nothing was made without Him. But Jesus is also the author of the greater creation, the antitype of the physical creation, the spiritual creation, the church (II Corinthians 5:15; Ephesians 2:10; 4:24). To “begin” a creation means that He has a plan that will carry it to its intended climactic purpose. He did not abandon His creation and will not abandon His spiritual creation.</p>
<h2>The Beginning and the Amen</h2>
<p>He is the “author” and “finisher” of our faith, which means He is with us to help us finish our mission (Hebrews 12:2). Thus, He is the “beginning” and “the Amen.” The implication is that creations that are important enough to “begin” are important enough to sustain and see to the objective end. This is very satisfying to know that <b>this </b>is the One that is <strong>for us</strong>, so “<em>who can be against us?</em>” (Romans 8:31). Who are such enemies in comparison?</p>
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		<title>If a woman can say &#8220;Amen,&#8221; then why can&#8217;t she say &#8220;I disagree?&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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	<h2>Question:</h2>
<p>If there is such a thing as a “smell” test, I think the “Amen” at least invokes a whiff. <strong>If</strong> you accept that a woman can randomly and audibly say “Amen” (meaning "I agree" or "I concur"), why could she not randomly and audibly say “No!” meaning "I don’t agree?"</p>
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	<h2>Answer:</h2>
<p>There is a difference between being one voice among many and expressing yourself individually. Using your same test, do we conclude that women should not sing at all if they are not allowed to randomly burst out in solo song during the worship service?</p>
<p>In the examples where we find women saying "amen," we see:</p>
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<li>In Numbers 5:19-22, a woman is to respond with "Amen, amen" in agreement with the terms of a curse if she had been cheating on her husband.</li>
<li>When Moses read the curses of the Law in Deuteronomy 27, all the people, including the women, were to say "amen" to indicate their agreement and acceptance of the conditions.</li>
<li>When the ark was brought to Jerusalem, both men and women gathered to worship (I Chronicles 16:3). After David's praise of God, "<em>all the people said, "Amen!" and praised the LORD</em>" (I Chronicles 16:36).</li>
<li>A similar joint "amen" was given by all the people in Nehemiah 5:13 when Nehemiah laid out rules for the people to follow.</li>
<li>As the law was read once again, "<em>And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. Then all the people answered, "Amen, Amen!" while lifting up their hands. And they bowed their heads and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground</em>" (Nehemiah 8:6).</li>
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<p>Thus, we see that under the Old Law, women did say "amen" during worship, but it was at times when everyone else was also saying "amen." Such situations were not assertions of authority. Even in the case where a woman was required to reply to the priest in Numbers 5:19-22, this was not an assertion of authority.</p>
<p>Paul said, "<em>The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, <strong>just as the Law also says</strong></em>" (I Corinthians 14:34). Thus, we are directed to look at the Old Law as an example in this matter.</p>
<p>Agreeing with a speaker does not indicate the person agreeing is taking on authority. The speaker is still responsible for what he says. But when a person disagrees with a speaker, then the dissenter is claiming greater authority than the speaker. "<em>But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet</em>" (I Timothy 2:11).</p>
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		<title>Can a woman speak out in response to a question or say &#8220;amen&#8221; during the worship?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question: Is it scriptural for a woman to speak out during a public worship service to answer a question asked by the preacher? Is it scriptural for a woman to say "amen" at the close of public prayers?  I have noticed this being done lately, and I thought women were to keep silent in the&#8230;]]></description>
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	<h2>Question:</h2>
<p>Is it scriptural for a woman to speak out during a public worship service to answer a question asked by the preacher? Is it scriptural for a woman to say "amen" at the close of public prayers?  I have noticed this being done lately, and I thought women were to keep silent in the assembly during worship. I know she can teach in Bible classes as long as she is not usurping authority over a man.  Should a preacher ask questions from the pulpit that would cause others to answer out loud?  Thank you for taking my questions</p>
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	<h2>Answer:</h2>
<blockquote><p>"<em>Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church. Or did the word of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached? If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord</em>" (I Corinthians 14:34-37).</p></blockquote>
<p>These verses come immediately after giving rules for how prophecy (words given by God) were to be delivered to the assembly. In particular, Paul tells the Corinthians that only a few prophets were to speak at each assembly (I Corinthians 14:29) and that each must take a turn while the others remain silent (I Corinthians 14:30-31). The word "silent" used in I Corinthians 14:30 and the one in I Corinthians 14:34. It means complete silence. Yet the silence does not apply to the entire service. Otherwise, these prophets could not fulfill the commands to sing (Ephesians 5:19 and Colossians 3:16).</p>
<p>In the same way, the silence of the women is not one where no sound is uttered the entire service, for they too are commanded to sing. Yet Paul is clearly stating that a woman is not to question or comment on the information being presented during the worship service. Questions are to be addressed in private, such as at home, and not in the public arena.</p>
<p>I Timothy 2:11-15, which reads, "<em>Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control</em>," would prohibit a woman from participating in worship in a leadership role. The word "silence" in this passage does not refer to absolute silence, but a quiet demeanor. Still, Paul is prohibiting a woman from leading the congregation in prayer, song, or instruction.</p>
<p>Notice the phrase "<em>just as the law also says</em>" in I Corinthians 14:34. I am not certain exactly what Paul had in mind, but I was curious about the saying of "amen" back under the Old Law. When a woman, accused of adultery, was asked if she agreed to the test by the priest, she was to respond with "amen" (Numbers 5:22). When Moses read the curses of the Law in Deuteronomy 27, all the people, including the women, were to say "amen" to indicate their agreement and acceptance of the conditions. When the ark was brought to Jerusalem, both men and women gathered to worship (I Chronicles 16:3). After David's praise of God, "<em>all the people said, "Amen!" and praised the LORD</em>" (I Chronicles 16:36). A similar joint "amen" was given by all the people in Nehemiah 5:13. As the law was read once again, "<em>And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. Then all the people answered, "Amen, Amen!" while lifting up their hands. And they bowed their heads and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground</em>" (Nehemiah 8:6). Thus while Paul states that the Old Law also had the women keep silent during worship, it appears that this did not include the saying of amen when it was appropriate both in and out of worship assemblies.</p>
<p>Should a preacher ask questions of women in the audience during worship? Even if one could prove that Paul's prohibition against speaking in the assembly did not include answering direct questions, still the asking would be unfair in general since there are many who believe it is forbidden. A woman would be placed in an awkward spot of possibly violating her conscience or the conscience of others around her (Romans 14:23; I Corinthians 10:32-33).</p>
<p>Should a preacher avoid asking any questions at all that might encourage a person to answer? Here a person must prove that all speaking, by both men and women in the audience, is forbidden. If we acknowledge that women are not to speak in the assembly, then it doesn't follow that a preacher should ask a general question where a woman might be tempted to answer. It would be moving the responsibility for not speaking from the women to the preacher. It would be a case of, "It's not my fault! It's the preacher's fault for asking a wide-open question;" that is, it would be a case of passing the buck regarding one's sins. Those speaking should not encourage the women to violate the command of God, but the responsibility for following the command remains on those to whom the command was given.</p>
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		<title>Notes on Amen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2005 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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	<h2>Comprehension Required</h2>
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<li>I Corinthians 14:15-17</li>
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<h2>Purpose</h2>
<h3>Agreement</h3>
<h4>Individual</h4>
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<li>Numbers 5:22</li>
<li>I Kings 1:36</li>
<li>Jeremiah 28:6</li>
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<h4>Assembly</h4>
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<li>Deuteronomy 27:15-26</li>
<li>I Chronicles 16:36</li>
<li>Nehemiah 5:13</li>
<li>Nehemiah 8:6</li>
<li>Psalm 106:48</li>
<li>I Corinthians 14:15-17</li>
<li>Revelation 5:14</li>
<li>Revelation 7:12</li>
<li>Revelation 19:4</li>
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<h3>Expression of God's Faithfulness</h3>
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<li>II Corinthians 1:20</li>
<li>Revelation 3:14</li>
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<h3>Conclusion to Prayer</h3>
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<li>Matthew 6:13</li>
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<h3>Confirmation</h3>
<h4>Of One's Own Statement</h4>
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<li>Matthew 28:20</li>
<li>Mark 16:20</li>
<li>Luke 24:53</li>
<li>John 21:25</li>
<li>I John 5:21</li>
<li>Revelation 1:7</li>
<li>Revelation 1:18</li>
<li>Revelation 22:20</li>
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<h4>Of Praise to God</h4>
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<li>Psalm 41:13</li>
<li>Psalm 72:19</li>
<li>Psalm 89:52</li>
<li>Romans 1:25</li>
<li>Romans 9:5</li>
<li>Romans 11:36</li>
<li>Romans 16:27</li>
<li>Galatians 1:5</li>
<li>Ephesians 3:21</li>
<li>Philippians 4:20</li>
<li>I Timothy 1:17</li>
<li>I Timothy 6:16</li>
<li>II Timothy 4:18</li>
<li>Hebrews 13:21</li>
<li>I Peter 4:11</li>
<li>I Peter 5:11</li>
<li>II Peter 3:18</li>
<li>Jude 1:25</li>
<li>Revelation 1:6</li>
<li>Revelation 7:12</li>
<li>Revelation 19:4</li>
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<h4>Of Benediction to Others</h4>
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<li>Romans 15:33</li>
<li>Romans 16:20</li>
<li>Romans 16:24</li>
<li>I Corinthians 16:24</li>
<li>II Corinthians 13:14</li>
<li>Galatians 6:18</li>
<li>Ephesians 6:24</li>
<li>Philippians 4:23</li>
<li>Colossians 4:18</li>
<li>I Thessalonians 5:28</li>
<li>II Thessalonians 3:18</li>
<li>I Timothy 6:21</li>
<li>II Timothy 4:22</li>
<li>Titus 3:15</li>
<li>Philemon 25</li>
<li>Hebrews 13:25</li>
<li>I Peter 5:14</li>
<li>II John 1:13</li>
<li>Revelation 22:21</li>
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